How stupid are we as a culture?

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the decline in quality of television shows, particularly on the Travel Channel. The person speaking is frustrated with the loud and uninformative nature of some shows, such as "Art Attack" and cooking shows with "fat bastards". They long for the days of well-produced shows on Egypt and gourmet chefs, and criticize the popularity of shows like Rachel Ray's. They also mention a new show about penetration testing and recall the interesting story of Kevin Mitnick. The conversation ends with a discussion about "Iron Chef" and the potential negative effects of trash TV on culture.
  • #36
Evo said:
Who ARE these people and why?

http://www.feastyboys.tv/ - They're the most irreverant cooking duo on cable, print or the web! Join the Feasty Boys and their Feasty Friends as they show you how to make
"Cookin' Simple"... :biggrin:

http://www.feastyboys.tv/meetfeasties.cfm

Evo - you got to try this one! - 2001-02: "Gettin' Stupid w/ Cupid..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=17 :rofl:

2003-05: "Got Crabs??"
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=41

2002-01: "Top Secret Recipes w/ the Feasty Boys..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=27

http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive.cfm

Hey this is mainstream cuisine.

Ya'll give these dudes a break now.
 
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  • #37
Cyrus said:
I must say, BBC does a good job.
Well if you will just apologise for the whole "boston harbour + tea" thing we will consider taking you back.
 
  • #38
Cyrus:
Its in all media "channels" now. Internet, films, tv-series. Earlier one could watch a action or a martial art flick, though a bit rudimentary Special effects, one was able to watch long cuts. maybe 10-15 seconds even. One really got a better understanding of what was going on.

Now its all different. Its not uncommon with 4-5cuts in ONE second. The martial arts hasnt evolved, and to hide bad fighting or whatever it is, they cut. Cut and cut and cut. It is driving me mad! You get really tired by watching a film. Tired even, just watching a minute of it. And so it goes, on series.

And actually you have this even in cooking shows. The want to be "new" and "cool," so they zoom in on the food being prepared, shakes the camera from side to side. Multiple cuts in one second. Rapid focusing. You actually get tired and confused watching a f'ing cooking show! Isnt the point with a cooking show to be able to understand, to learn? WTF!..

One important question is: why is it so? Are the audience preferring these programs? Or do the televition execs "think" this is what people want? Or are they just plain "dumbing" down the people?
 
  • #39
dumbing down for the masses? what? O, you guys :rolleyes:. you guys are crazy.

culture is alive and thriving. two words: MANSWERS.
 
  • #40
mgb_phys said:
Well if you will just apologise for the whole "boston harbour + tea" thing we will consider taking you back.
:rofl: Apologize for improving your lousy tea? Don't make me laugh. To this day I refuse to drink tea grown in England.
 
  • #41
Astronuc said:
http://www.feastyboys.tv/ - They're the most irreverant cooking duo on cable, print or the web! Join the Feasty Boys and their Feasty Friends as they show you how to make
"Cookin' Simple"... :biggrin:

http://www.feastyboys.tv/meetfeasties.cfm

Evo - you got to try this one! - 2001-02: "Gettin' Stupid w/ Cupid..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=17 :rofl:

2003-05: "Got Crabs??"
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=41

2002-01: "Top Secret Recipes w/ the Feasty Boys..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=27

http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive.cfm

Hey this is mainstream cuisine.

Ya'll give these dudes a break now.
:yuck: I'm with Cyrus, these people have no reason to exist.
 
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  • #42
I watched "10 questions for the dalai lama" but I did not think it was all that great.

As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way. Its just absolute garbage.
 
  • #43
Evo said:
:yuck: I'm with Cyrus, these people have no reason to exist.
Oh, come one, where's your sense of humor? :rofl:

Cyrus said:
As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way. Its just absolute garbage.
It's not my cup of tea either. :biggrin:
 
  • #44
Talking cuisine, I had to do it tonite.

All kids visiting, the youngest daughter did the shopping and decided the meal to be: first dish, Carpaccio with salads and dressings, second dish, fruit de mer, third dish deer beef w/special vine sauce (wow) with Broccoli w/cheese-mushroom sauce and fried potatoes, and as desert ice tiramisu before the café cognac.

So the first two dishes weren't much of a problem as these could be prepared in advance. But the main dish, that's a real hell's kitchen nightmare as all dishes require a short cooking time and no chance do to that in advance. Now try to fry potatoes, deer beef, two sauces and broccoli simultanously in such a small kitchen in which one person is the optimal occupancy, while the guests are waiting.

But it worked and we had a real vintage culture dinner without complaints from the offspring. I guess I could be cook after retiring :-)
 
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  • #45
Andre said:
All kids visiting, the youngest daughter did the shopping and decided the meal to be: first dish, Carpaccio with salads and dressings, second dish, fruit de mer, third dish deer beef w/special vine sauce (wow) with Broccoli w/cheese-mushroom sauce and fried potatoes, and as desert ice tiramisu before the café cognac.
:tongue2:

So the first two dishes weren't much of a problem as these could be prepared in advance. But the main dish, that's a real hell's kitchen nightmare as all dishes require a short cooking time and no chance do to that in advance. Now try to fry potatoes, deer beef, two sauces and broccoli simultanously in such a small kitchen in which one person is the optimal occupancy, while the guests are waiting.
That's the point of setting out a bottle of wine before dinner. :biggrin: or hors d'œuvres if one really gets involved.

Now this is a nice spread! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hors_d%27%C5%93uvre_%28Bosnian%29.jpg
 
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  • #46
Cyrus said:
As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way.
I guess it's an acquired taste - like NASCAR. :rofl:

When I saw their promo on the Hamburger, I really got a craving for a Double Meat and Cheese Death Burger. But I'd take to new heights - to that of Double Meat and Cheese MegaDeath Burger!
 
  • #47
Astronuc said:
:tongue2:

That's the point of setting out a bottle of wine before dinner. :biggrin:

Right, for this kind of family happenings I usually succeed finding a Chateauneuf du pape or a Rothschild Mouton Cadet tucked away somewhere in the cellar.
 

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