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How to patent a new bottle

  1. Nov 12, 2005 #1

    daniel_i_l

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    Lets say that I have for example, an idea for a cool new way to bottle ketsup. How would I go about patenting it and selling it to Heinz?
     
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  3. Nov 13, 2005 #2
    being that getting a patent is such a pain in the butt, and that heinz is pretty happy with their current bottles I'd say just go ahead and write up your plan, get it notarized so you have a date on your idea then send a copy to heinz. if they use it they'll pay you if they don't pay you, you sue them and win easily because you have the proof that you thought of it first.
    Is ketchup really spelt ketsup? Catsup?Catchup? Katsup? Ketsoup? make sure you get that right or they probably won't even open your letter, which they probably won't do anyway.
     
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  4. Nov 13, 2005 #3

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    Well, if you want to go the patent route, you spend about $20,000 on a good patent attorney to help you write the patent and follow through the entire process to get it approved (if you write it yourself or get one of those hack attorneys to do it, you will instead spend $50,000 on litigation when Heinz finds some loophole in your application and insists it infringes on a current design already covered in one of their patents, then makes your bottle without paying you another dime because it's already their patent). After you own the patent rights, you can then negotiate a license with anyone who wants to use your bottle design. You negotiate the fee for them to purchase the license. Keep in mind that unless it's really something spectacular that they couldn't possibly resist, or wouldn't want to see sold to their competitors, they might not be interested. But the licensing is where the money comes from if you have a patent on something you'd never use or market yourself.
     
  5. Nov 13, 2005 #4
    check out

    "www.intelproplaw.com"[/URL]

    A forum that provides answers, from intellectual property lawyers, on various intellectual property questions. Patents, copyrights, trademarks, etc...
     
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  6. Nov 14, 2005 #5

    Danger

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    If your cool new idea is to grow the tomatoes in the bottle, don't bother. I already own the rights to it.
     
  7. Nov 14, 2005 #6
    wow, very good idea. way better than mine. I got a patent on the ketchup paint balls you shoot at your food.
     
  8. Nov 14, 2005 #7

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    Another excellent approach. You should look into teaming up with Serj and his electric paintball gun.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2005 #8
    electric paintballs? you'd need a long extention cord
     
  10. Nov 14, 2005 #9

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    Hmmm..... a Taser with metalflake paintballs? Add insult to injury.
     
  11. Nov 14, 2005 #10
    that's why I always poke a person in the eye after I tell them off. add injury to insult
     
  12. Nov 14, 2005 #11

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    It's good that you do it after. If you did it before, they wouldn't be able to see who's telling them off.
     
  13. Nov 14, 2005 #12
    what happens if you poke a blind person in the eye? besides getting bit by their dog. would it disable them like it does me?
     
  14. Nov 14, 2005 #13

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    If he has a glass eye, you'll break your fingernail.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2005 #14
    I knew a guy with a glass eye. He got killed when a pelican flew into it.
    I tried to warn him. I yelled "LOOK OUT FOR THAT PELICAN!"
    he started swinging his dog around his head, but the dog clipped a guy on a motorcycle and got dragged out of my buddy's hand
    It was really sad. but you gotta go on. These things happen
     
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  16. Nov 14, 2005 #15

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    :eek: Was the bike okay?!
     
  17. Nov 14, 2005 #16
    no, BMW
    nice bike, rare. The driver was fully enclosed and it had four wheels. You don't see many of those motorcycles anymore.
     
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  18. Nov 14, 2005 #17

    Danger

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    Yeah. :grumpy:
    Every time somebody comes up with a really good idea, it gets pulled off the market.
     
  19. Nov 14, 2005 #18
    That's why I'm inventing a slingshot.

    I had a slingshot once, almost put my eye out.

    *Elton John in background*the Cirrrrrrcle ooof Life.
     
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  20. Nov 14, 2005 #19

    Danger

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    Before or after you told yourself off?
     
  21. Nov 14, 2005 #20
    *time out*
    come on guy, what happened? you froze up on me there.
    *time in*
    YES! But how did you know? I never told anyone, 'cept for ol' tripod. tripod's my dog. I got him after he was in freaky motorcycle accident where he lost two legs. Great dog, if you are turning left.
     
  22. Nov 14, 2005 #21

    Astronuc

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    The U.S. patent office has useful information - http://www.uspto.gov/

    A patent must satisfy 3 criteria:

    1. New - it has to different than anything that already exists
    2. Useful - it needs to do something useful
    3. Non-obvious - this one's tricky, but must pretty much demonstrate that no one else would have thought of this idea.

    One does not need a Patent Attorny. A good patent agent is OK, and cheaper. The main idea is to find someone competent.

    Also, do not disclose your idea in the public domain. Public or unprotected disclosure will disqualify the patent.
     
  23. Nov 14, 2005 #22
    Stay On Topic!!
     
  24. Nov 14, 2005 #23

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    Tripod is in my employ. He was, in fact, designed by me specifically to keep tabs on you. He actually lost all 4 legs in that accident, and I replaced 2 of them with prosthetics. (I thought that I had that right-turn problem kicked; must have shelled another bearing. :grumpy: )

    Yeah!
     
  25. Nov 14, 2005 #24
    Oh, I know he lost all four legs and had two replaced with prosthetics, but he had two prosthetic legs before the accident so I didn't count them as being lost, just recycled. There's quite a market in recycled prosthetic limbs. New ones cost an arm and a leg. You gotta be careful though, I knew a guy who bought a defective hook and one day he was out feeding the birds and it misfired and plucked his eye out. He had to get a recycled glass eye and change his prescription on his contact lenses.
     
  26. Nov 14, 2005 #25
    Danger, what happened to you? where'd you go?j
    you are falling behind. You need to Catch-up. catchup...you know what, it's about time someone came up with a new catchup bottling idea.
     
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