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{5x^4 - 4x + 5y = 0

5y^4 + 5x - 4y = 0}

I know one answer is (0;0), but i don't know how to show it, also there is another point.

Maybe someone can help me?

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{5x^4 - 4x + 5y = 0

5y^4 + 5x - 4y = 0}

I know one answer is (0;0), but i don't know how to show it, also there is another point.

Maybe someone can help me?

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5x^4-5y^4-9(x-y)=0

Now, you have:

x^4-y^4=(x-y)(x^3+x^2y+xy^2+y^3), and thus, you may factorize the above equation as:

(x-y)*(5(x^3+x^2y+xy^2+y^3)-9)=0

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{5x^4 - 4x + 5y = 0

5y^4 + 5x - 4y = 0}

I know one answer is (0;0), but i don't know how to show it, also there is another point.

Maybe someone can help me?

One can use Groebner basis methods to get at all the solutions. Using the Groebner package in Maple 11, I get:

sys:=[5*x^4-4*x+5*y,5*y^4+5*x-4*y]:lprint(sys); <== input

[5*x^4-4*x+5*y, 5*y^4+5*x-4*y]

with(Groebner): <=== load the Groebner package

B:=Basis(sys,plex(x,y)):lprint(B);

[225*y+756*y^4-1280*y^7+2400*y^10-2000*y^13+625*y^16, 5*y^4+5*x-4*y]

This B is the output. The two original equations are equivalent to setting the two components of B to zero (although, of course, there may be some extraneous roots, so those must be checked in the original system). Note that the first component of B is a polynomial in y alone, so we can find roots of the two-equation system by first solving the polynomial in y, then solving for x by setting the second expression in B to zero.

f1y:=B[1]:lprint(f1y);

225*y+756*y^4-1280*y^7+2400*y^10-2000*y^13+625*y^16 <--- set to zero

Let's try to factor the polynomial.

F:=factor(f1y):lprint(F);

y*(5*y^3+1)*(125*y^12-425*y^9+565*y^6-369*y^3+225) <=== the factors

So, y = 0 or 5*y^3 + 1 = 0, or

125*y^12 -425*y^9 + 565*y^6 -360*y^3 + 225 = 0, which is a 4th degree polynomial in z = y^3.

After solving for y, we get x from 5*x = 4*y - 5*y^4.

Note: doing anything like this by hand would take months or years of work and require hundreds of pages of algebraic work. Use of a computer algebra system is essential.

RGV

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