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HS students: what's a 'C' on your grade scale?

  1. Apr 21, 2005 #1

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    My sister's having kind of a rough time in high school this year. I was talking to her about it and I was really surprised to find out what her school's grade scale is:

    Numeric Average | Letter Grade | Description

    90-100 | A | Excellent Progress

    80-90 | B | Good Progress

    75-79 | C | Average Progress

    70-74 |D | Poor Progress

    69 and below |F | Failure

    When I was in high school, the scale we had was very similar to what I have in college now. A = (90-100), B= (80-89), C = (70-79), D = (60-69) F = 59 and below.

    I've never seen the 70-79 range get split the way it is done at my sister's school. Seems like it's more difficult these days to squeak by with a C! I only had to clear a 70, she has to at least get a 75.

    Anyway, I'm here to do a little survey. I would like to hear from high school students on this board if possible. (or people who have recently been in high school or people who have kids in high school, etc). I would like to know if your grading scale is similar to the one at my sister's school.

    Thanks in advance for your help. :smile:

    p.s. I am not sure if 90 counts as a B or an A at my sister's school. I pulled these grade scales straight out of the school district's documentation. I am still reading through it trying to find clarification.
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  3. Apr 21, 2005 #2
    is that numeric value on a 0-100 scale? Around here (scandinavia) 50% correct is usually a passing grade. I really think there needs to be a universal grading system :) I have no clue how A,B,C's work or the 4.0 scale that american uni's seem to use.
  4. Apr 21, 2005 #3
    A = (90-100), B= (80-89), C = (70-79), D = (60-69) F = 59 and below.

    I've never seen it otherwise, does she go to a private school?
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    Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it - please keep it coming- it's great to get opinions from students outside as well as inside the U.S.

    whozum, she actually goes to a public school in Texas. go figure.
  6. Apr 21, 2005 #5
    That's how it is where I live (Croatia), as well. I really dislike High School, but thankfully it will be over soon and then I can move on to University. :smile:
  7. Apr 21, 2005 #6

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    Yes, it's just a percentage. 90 = 90% correct

    Dracovich, I agree with you - there should be a universal system, but I don't know if there is any hope of ever having an international standard for grading if the U.S. scales aren't even consistent among public schools in the same state!
  8. Apr 21, 2005 #7
    At my highschool we went A-100-93 B-85-92 C-78-84 D-70-77 F-69 and below.
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    Are you in the U.S.? Was your school public or private? Thanks.
  10. Apr 21, 2005 #9
    U.S. Private catholic school
  11. Apr 21, 2005 #10
    In my current private school in Connecticut :

    A - 90-100
    B- 80-89
    C- 70-79
    D - 60-69

    In my previous Indian International School located in Dubai, United Arab Emirates ( Middle east ) We used percentages instaed of letter grades.. We had to secure 40% or more to pass the course/exam. 70% is considered average and 80% or above is considered good..
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  12. Apr 21, 2005 #11
    A - 90-100
    B- 80-89
    C- 70-79
    D - 60-69

    I was in public high school and we had that system the entire time. And our teachers usually graded on curves, where the maximum possible points was reset to the number of points of the highest grade.
  13. Apr 21, 2005 #12
    At my high school (in Canada) we only used numerical system, and a fail was <50% (which is the same at my current university).
  14. Apr 21, 2005 #13
    From my private school-
    90-100 A
    80-89 B
    70-79 C
    Etc. Note we are the only school I am aware of that did not give actual GPAs to students, nor were we ranked. The reasoning behind this was they did not want 41 very intelligent girls getting all cutthroat as we did that enough just for who got cum laude (made for an interesting thing when I applied for scholarships however).
    The public high school in my area I should've gone to had I not taken the private school route is as follows (my roommate is shouting over my shoulder that this is how all West Virginian schools are as well, if you're interested)-
    94-100 A
    85-93 B
    78-84 C
    Etc. Note that the public school I would've gone to had MASSIVE grade inflation going on so it wasn't that bad (enrolled in AP class= automatic A and such... yea there was a reason I didn't go there!).
  15. Apr 21, 2005 #14
    Why do they do this?

    Does someone high up in the school district decide that too many people are getting A's or C's. Do high schools get a rep if not enough people fail? Help the local economy by making sure not enough people go to college?

    My old high school
    AP class
    5.0 100 -90%
    4.0 89 - 80
    ... 10% increments
    non AP
    4.0 100-90%
    3.0 89-80
    ...10% increments

    After the year I graduated they had two cum laude one for when counting AP classes as regular 4.0-0 and anther counting AP classes as 5.0-0. It has been ~4 years since then. I think it has been two different people each time.
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    British Columbia Public High School Grade Scheme:

    A 86-100
    B 73-85
    C+ 67-72
    C 60-66
    C- 50-59
    F 0-49
  17. Apr 22, 2005 #16

    And i thought our education system let people through much too easily.
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    Thank you everyone. I can't tell you how grateful I am for your feedback.
    My sister's had a pretty hard time. On her last report card she fell just barely below 75% in Spanish 2 and Geometry and that was enough to get her kicked off her high school drill team. Not only that, but she's forbidden from even trying out for next year, even if she brings her grades up before the end of the term. She's very upset over the situation.
    She's a good kid and she works hard. She does great in her other classes - especially science and health - and I think the school is being a little bit harsh with her.
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    Wow...I agree. I'm not sure what a "drill team" is, but I'd be willing to bet it has nothing to do with either Spanish or Geometry. (Edit, have just learned it refers to somewhat military-like, parade marching with cool maneuvers, rifle twirling etc.) So I'm guessing that it was your sister's cumulative average that the drill team was using as a criterion, and those two courses managed to lower it past the "cutoff" (?). This fixation on marks for something like a team is ludicrous. Doesn't the fact that she made the team in the first place speak to her worthiness of being on it? What about the skills she's developed as part of the team? Aren't they needed? The analogy to a sports team would be like the coach saying, "well, you're a skilled player and have become an integral part of this team, but you suddenly don't meet our artificial academic standards, so we're going to boot you off." :grumpy:

    As illogical as it is, it's quite a common practice I think, that a student's academic performance governs her opportunities in other areas. What really boggled my mind was their unwillingness to reconsider her for this team next year should she once again meet their ridiculous requirements. Huh? So, despite the fact that she is clearly capable of maintaining that standard based on her past performance, the moment she fails to do so, they assume that she never ever will again, and even if she does, it is no longer valid? :uhh:

    Well MIH, you managed to get me all worked up about it. :rofl: Now if only you can provoke the same response in someone at the school.
  20. Apr 22, 2005 #19
    Am i missing something? Are the tests on that scale easier or something? It seems weird that standardized tests such as those that one that measures mathmatical understanding between nations etc, seems to not rank scandinavia below USA, but still if a passing grade is 70% right then that would imply that they are getting a bigger % right on their tests then people in scandinavia. 70% right here is a respectable grade 80% is good and anything above is great.

    Can it really be the same tests with different scales of passing? That would either mean that the american education system is vastly superior and produces better results, or that a ****load of people are failing (i'd guess that if the cutoff was at 70% then about 30% of students were failing). Then again maybe people would just automaticly conform to a different scale and try harder.
  21. Apr 22, 2005 #20
    Why is it that the US is consistently not ranked near the top in science and math scores on tests when compared to other nations, but we produce a lot of the top scientists in almost every field?
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