Comparing Human Body and Ham Spoilage: Exploring the Science Behind Decay

[fredreload]

Ham goes bad if you leave it there for a few days but why doesn't human body goes bad if you leave it there for a few days and when the person is alive?

 

[Dr. Courtney]

White blood cells and other features of the immune system keep healthy people from rotting.

 

[fredreload]

Can they also be used as food preservatives? Right, immune system

 

[Dr. Courtney]

Can they also be used as food preservatives? But you can't really renew them hmm, other methods in preserving food?

The human immune system is living and active. Cells need a steady supply of oxygen and glucose, as well as removal of waste and CO2.

 

[fredreload]

I can just build the immune system proteins immunoglobulins. What would happen if you just produce the proteins without the cell? Is that possible? I mean RNA build proteins from amino acids, but you don't need a cellular structure to keep these protein right? Do they become spam food or something?

 

[gjonesy]

Yeah and everything has a death process including humans, that ham is dead, when it was a live as swine it had all the necessary systems to support life. Its circulation was cut off and its CNS was severed then process of cell death began. That is why we preserve, freeze and process meats, to stop decomposition until we can consume it.
A living person has a system to expel dead cells and regenerate new cells (healing, biogenesis, ect.) until the circulatory system stops its function and the central nervous system stops its function then different processes begin.

 

[fredreload]

Well if you imagine some RNA enzyme in a solution joining up amino acid to become protein, I mean that is all it does, eventually you are going to get a lot of these protein. But without a cellular structure these protein produced would you call it meat? Meat is protein and water but with a cellular structure

P.S. Maybe condensed protein? I mean it still tastes the same right?

 

[gjonesy]

This is all pretty straight forward simple question and you obviously know something about basic biology. I've seen these simple straight forward discussions turn into great and very interesting threads, the featured discussion is about alcohol temp going below freezing is a great example. That being said take it from me if you have a point to make...make it quickly because if you don't it will end up either in the black hole or closed. I used to drag out points and try and bait people for certain answers and usually before I got to my finally, I'd get shut down.

Just friendly advice.

 

[fredreload]

This is all pretty straight forward simple question and you obviously know something about basic biology. I've seen these simple straight forward discussions turn into great and very interesting threads, the featured discussion is about alcohol temp going below freezing is a great example. That being said take it from me if you have a point to make...make it quickly because if you don't it will end up either in the black hole or closed. I used to drag out points and try and bait people for certain answers and usually before I got to my finally, I'd get shut down.

Just friendly advice.

It's alright, I just want to prove that the protein coming from RNA enzyme is edible without retaining its cellular structure, I'll leave the thread as it is, thanks!

 

[gjonesy]

thanks!

You are welcome

 

[rbelli1]

Fermentation is a method of introducing an immune system into food. As long as the fermentation organisms are healthy they will tend to exclude other competing organisms. Multiple year old cheese exists. Cured Meats such as Prosciutto are often more than a year old. The aging process is partially due to bacteria.

BoB

 

[SteamKing]

Ham goes bad if you leave it there for a few days but why doesn't human body goes bad if you leave it there for a few days and when the person is alive?

There's a key difference at work here: the ham is dead; the person is (hopefully) alive.

If you make the person (unfortunately) dead and leave him out for a few days, his body will go bad just like a piece of ham. This process can be slowed in a number of ways for both items: freezing, curing and drying with salt or other chemicals, irradiation to kill any microbes still living on or in the body which promote decomposition, etc.

The mummification of a body, which process the ancient Egyptians and other societies practiced, used some of these techniques to slow or stop rapid decay of dead bodies for religious reasons. The Egyptians were greatly aided in this because they live in one of the driest climates on earth, and removing moisture helps slow decay of organic material.

 

[fredreload]

Fermentation is a method of introducing an immune system into food. As long as the fermentation organisms are healthy they will tend to exclude other competing organisms. Multiple year old cheese exists. Cured Meats such as Prosciutto are often more than a year old. The aging process is partially due to bacteria.

BoB

Like BoB mentioned, introduce the immune system into the food would be a good choice

 

[Evo]

The Op has been answered, thread closed.