Hydraulic Engine: Can It Work?

In summary, the conversation discusses a design for a hydraulic motor using a 2-stroke engine and a hydraulic pump. The outer pistons are moved by internal combustion while the inner piston acts as a hydraulic pump. The design may face challenges with the viscosity of the hydraulic fluid and the need for proper balance and starting mechanisms. However, it could potentially be used as an air pump for a hydraulic accumulator.
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Imagine a bar, say 3inches dia by 15inches long, the bar is turned down to
1inch dia 3inches in for 3inches, and again at 9 inches for three inches, this
forms 3, connected (pistons), this piston assembly is enclosed in a cylinder
the outer pistons are moved by internal combustion using the 2 stroke principle,
the inner piston is used as a hydrulic pump, when say the right cylinder fires, a valve opens
on the left of the centeral pump piston, and the reverse as the left cylinder fires, the hydraulic pressure is such that it will not allow the ic pistons to (bottom out), thus forming
a hydraulic motor with only one moving part, will it work.
Second draft as first was nonsence.
 
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Sounds like a bad impedance mismatch, the viscosity of the hydraulic fluid is many times that of the air. Since a 2-cycle engine can maybe operate at 1200 RPM, then you're asking the fluid to pump at 20 Hz and you have a gas pressure of something like 1000psi for 5msec and a mechanical ratio of 1:1.

Maybe if you reduced the volume in the hydraulic areas you could gain more mechanical advantage, but the moving mass would still be quite large and getting the balance correct for operation sounds difficult.

A 2-cycle needs the downstroke of the piston to compress the mixture in the crankcase so that when it uncovers the intake port the mixture can be introduced. You're sort of trying to use that to pressurize hydraulic fluid, so where is the pressurized mixture coming from?

And how would you start this thing? :smile:
 
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OOps, silly idea any way. LOL
 
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You could, however, use your design as an air pump to pressurize a bladder-type hydraulic accumulator. You'd probably need some kind of air-bleed valve in the system to prevent over-pressurization or stalling the engine.
 
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Sounds like a multi-stage piston as is used in some air compressors.
 

1. Can a hydraulic engine replace a traditional combustion engine?

No, a hydraulic engine cannot completely replace a traditional combustion engine. While it can be used to power some machinery and vehicles, it is not suitable for all types of applications.

2. How does a hydraulic engine work?

A hydraulic engine works by using pressurized fluid to create mechanical energy. The fluid is typically oil or water, and it is forced through a series of tubes and pistons to generate movement.

3. What are the advantages of using a hydraulic engine?

One major advantage of a hydraulic engine is its high torque output, meaning it can generate a lot of power. It also has a simple design and is relatively low maintenance compared to other types of engines.

4. Are hydraulic engines more efficient than traditional engines?

In certain applications, hydraulic engines can be more efficient than traditional engines. However, they are not always the most efficient option and it depends on the specific use case.

5. Can a hydraulic engine be used in electric vehicles?

Yes, some electric vehicles use hydraulic engines in addition to electric motors to generate power. However, they are not currently a common choice for electric vehicles due to their lower efficiency compared to other options.

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