Hyperbolic, Parabolic or Elliptical Orbit?

In summary, the conversation discusses how the orbit of a comet can be determined based on its distance from the Sun and speed relative to the Earth. It is mentioned that if the product of the distance and speed is greater than, equal to, or less than 2, the comet's orbit will be hyperbolic, parabolic, or elliptical respectively. The conversation also references a post that explains how to calculate the specific energy of an object orbiting the Sun and how this can determine the type of orbit it will follow.
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A comet is first seen at a distance of d AUs from the Sun and is traveling with a speed of q times the Earth's speed.

Apparently it can be shown that if q2·d is greater than, equal to, or less than 2, then the comet's orbit will be hyperbolic, parabolic or elliptical respectively.

Any idea how this can be shown??

I know that, in general, ε (eccentricity) is less than, equal to, or greater than 1 for an ellipse, parabola, and hyperbola respectively.
 
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Yes, see post: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=40525

Just substitute the heliocentric gravitational constant for the geocentric gravitational constant.

The specific energy of object (energy per unit of mass) is just:

[tex]\frac{v^2}{2}-\frac{\mu_{sun}}{r}=\varepsilon[/tex]
where v is velocity, r is position and [tex]\mu_{sun}=1.327124421\times 10^{11}km^3/sec^2[/tex]

If the specific energy is less than 0, the object will orbit the Sun. If equal to 0, the object will follow a parabola. If greater than 1, the object will follow a hyperbola.

'e' is normally used to represent eccentricity (depends on the book you're using)
 
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This is because the eccentricity is related to the shape of the orbit, with a circular orbit having an eccentricity of 0, an elliptical orbit having an eccentricity between 0 and 1, a parabolic orbit having an eccentricity of 1, and a hyperbolic orbit having an eccentricity greater than 1.

To show the relationship between q, d, and the eccentricity of the comet's orbit, we can use the Vis-viva equation, which relates the speed of an object in orbit to its distance from the central body:

v^2 = GM(2/r - 1/a)

Where v is the speed of the object, G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the central body (in this case, the Sun), r is the distance between the object and the central body, and a is the semi-major axis of the orbit.

Since we know that the comet's speed is q times the Earth's speed, we can write:

v = q·v_Earth

Plugging this into the Vis-viva equation and rearranging, we get:

q^2·v_Earth^2 = GM(2/r - 1/a)

We also know that the distance of the comet from the Sun is d AUs, which can be converted to meters using the conversion factor 1 AU = 1.496x10^11 meters. So we can write:

r = d·1.496x10^11 meters

Substituting this into the Vis-viva equation, we get:

q^2·v_Earth^2 = GM(2/(d·1.496x10^11) - 1/a)

Now, the semi-major axis of an orbit can be calculated using the formula:

a = r/(1 - ε^2)

Where ε is the eccentricity of the orbit. Substituting this into the previous equation, we get:

q^2·v_Earth^2 = GM(2/(d·1.496x10^11) - 1/(r/(1 - ε^2)))

Simplifying and rearranging, we get:

q^2·v_Earth^2 = GM(2 - (d·1.496x10^11)/(1 - ε^2))

This equation relates the comet's speed, distance from the Sun, and eccentricity. We can now analyze the three cases mentioned in the content:

 

1. What is a hyperbolic orbit?

A hyperbolic orbit is a type of orbit in which an object travels around a central body, such as a planet or star, in a path that is open and non-repeating. This means that the object will not return to its starting point and will eventually escape the gravitational pull of the central body.

2. How is a parabolic orbit different from a hyperbolic orbit?

A parabolic orbit is a special case of a hyperbolic orbit in which the object's path is exactly at the edge of escaping the central body's gravitational pull. This results in the object following a path that is open and non-repeating, but it will eventually return to its starting point.

3. What is an elliptical orbit?

An elliptical orbit is a type of orbit in which an object travels around a central body in a path that is closed and repeating. This means that the object will continuously orbit around the central body without ever escaping its gravitational pull.

4. How do objects enter a hyperbolic, parabolic, or elliptical orbit?

Objects can enter these types of orbits through various mechanisms, such as being captured by the gravitational pull of a central body, or through a transfer orbit from another object. For example, spacecrafts can enter an elliptical orbit around a planet by using a gravitational slingshot maneuver.

5. What are some real-life examples of objects in hyperbolic, parabolic, or elliptical orbits?

Some real-life examples include comets, which have highly elliptical orbits around the sun, and artificial satellites in geostationary orbit, which have nearly circular orbits around the Earth. The Voyager 1 spacecraft also has a hyperbolic orbit as it travels out of our solar system.

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