# I hope this guy deserved it.

1. Feb 20, 2007

### Integral

Staff Emeritus
2. Feb 20, 2007

### Cyrus

Ewww, most of those cars should be in a dump!

Busted up trash. Nothing nice except that old porsche.

There all junkers like MG's, VW's, a datsun, an old mini cooper.....its not even worth the money to tow them outa there.

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
3. Feb 20, 2007

### Integral

Staff Emeritus
Are we looking at the same pics. Guess you can't see past the dust.

4. Feb 20, 2007

### Cyrus

I see alot of old cheap mercedes and fiats.

Trust me, stick with your mustang.

Now if this car were in the collection, that would be another story.....wow-we-wa-wa!

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
5. Feb 20, 2007

### Curious3141

Are ya kidding, cyrus?! This was already posted on the Ferrari board I frequent. There's some gold there - including lots of classic Alfas, a Lotus Elan and a Lotus Seven and more!

Fine, so it doesn't have a 300 SL gullwing. Big deal, can't have everything!

6. Feb 20, 2007

### Moonbear

Staff Emeritus
Wow, what a collection! The sheer number of cars there is shocking. I wonder how many of them will run (from the amount of dust, they probably all need at least some minor work to replace cracked hoses and such). If all they need is a good bath, and a bit of body work, what a find! Heck, even if there are only a handful that can be restored out of all those, and you sell the rest for parts to other collectors, it's still gold.

7. Feb 20, 2007

### humanino

I am amazed by this treasure ! This guy is pretty lucky indeed. Do you know how much is actually his ? I am wondering, I know that, in France, when you find a treasure, half of the value goes to the person who discovers it, and half goes to the person who owns it. In that case, it would take a long time to estimate the actual value. And I do not know the laws in Portugal.

8. Feb 20, 2007

### turbo

What a find! The biggest problem I would have is deciding which one to restore first. I know a guy who does full frame-up restorations, and when the car is looking and running like new, he sells it and starts on another one. He would go nuts with this bunch! As for the gull-wing Mercedes. I watched one slowly rot into a field when I was in college. A guy had one (amongst many junkers) and he wanted so much money for it that nobody would pay the price. He just left it out back in the tall grass - about the worst thing you can do to a car. Year after year, I would swing by to take a look at the car as it slowly deteriorated into scaly rust.

9. Feb 20, 2007

### Panda

He bought the house, the land and everything that stands on it. Certainly under UK law he has the right to make the seller clear/pay to clear the junk off his land as it was not in the description of the property, or he can decide to clear the junk out himself.

10. Feb 20, 2007

### Schrodinger's Dog

Or he Could call the Lord at Beaulieu, I think it's Lord Montague, and ask if he's willing to take some old model cars of his hands, for say a pretty tidy sum

http://www.beaulieu.co.uk/

11. Feb 20, 2007

### hypatia

Yes, there are few that would fetch close to 1/2 a million each. I wonder if there is a Barrett Jackson style auction house in Europe?

12. Feb 20, 2007

### brewnog

Yeah, saw this a few weeks ago. Some of the stuff in there is incredible. Porsche Speedster, Lotus Elan, some original Austin Coopers, Lotus Seven, and some of those Alfas are gorgeous.

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
13. Feb 20, 2007

### BobG

At the least, there's a lot of cars (about 180) with something to start with. A few might be in good condition. The majority probably need quite a bit of work.

There's droppings on most of the cars from a leaking roof, so the best that can be said about the storage is that at least it's better than leaving them in an open field. I would think that most have some rust damage and mold problems with the interior. (At the least, they should all need new interiors, which should improve the world outlook for fabricated seat covers :rofl: ).

The story on this seems pretty shaky. It's on a lot of forums, but there is no actual story to reference.

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
14. Feb 20, 2007

### Cyrus

What exactly is so great about a bunch of old fiats, VW, lotus, MGs, and alpha romeos?

Even fully restored, those cars look like rubbish. I still have yet to see any 'rare' cars in that collection. I just see a bunch of 'old' cars, a lot of cars on ebay that would sell for 5k in much better condition.

No good mercedes, no old ferraris, no old lamborgini, no old bmw. Just poor man junkers. Its like finding a barn full of old honda civics and toyota carollas from the early 80s.

15. Feb 20, 2007

Degustibus.

16. Feb 20, 2007

### brewnog

A 356 a poor man junker? An original Elan? Or an original Seven? None of them touched for god knows how many years? Lancias, Bertones, a P6, and a few Guiliettas?

You obviously missed the old BMWs and Mercedes.

Don't know what you're talking about mate. That lot is worth millions at auction, let alone what each car would be worth to an enthusiast.

If these cars with in Class 2 condition when they were stored, I bet most of them would only need a really good clean, polish, and service to be treated as current classics, rather than restoration projects.

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
17. Feb 20, 2007

### DaveC426913

Yes, this is a gem of a time capsule. Man, this guy's gonna be rich.

18. Feb 20, 2007

### Cyrus

Here is a nice lot of Lotus Elans for around 10-15k (and not junkers).

Whats so great about the lotus?

Want a porsche? Here, buy one for 9k in roughly the same condition:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960...oryZ6428QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How about a restored minicooper for only 4k.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/78-A...QQihZ012QQcategoryZ107007QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

FYI, those mercedes are nothing special.

Where are these 'special' cars you all see?

How about some real classic cars:

VERY RARE split window VW bug.

Classic lambo.

The cars above, are worth millions. That lot, is fulla crap.

Last edited by a moderator: Feb 20, 2007
19. Feb 20, 2007

### Cyrus

Another classic

Please point cars like these out in those pictures. I see a bunch of 'poor mans' cars. I dont see even half a million worth of cars there. Maybe 100k for the entire lot because some of them might be good.

Last edited: Feb 20, 2007
20. Feb 20, 2007

### turbo

$100K? Be sure to take wage-paying jobs and don't pursue speculation/investment as a career. I have organized auctions that grossed over$9M each selling militaria, firearms, etc, and I can tell you that the collector market is much healthier and stronger than you might believe, and that there are niche markets for items that were produced in small numbers, even if they are not "hot" or popular. There is tremendous potential in that barn, and I would be proud to bring it to market.