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Les Sleeth
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quantumcarl said:You're the guy I had to remind twice about how living and non-living matter are the same thing.
This logic is the result of a kind of mechanistic thick-headedness. Here's how that fallacious argument would go with a car.
If we take a car apart we will find that every single bit of it is matter, and we will find every single relationship between the parts is mechancial. THEREFORE . . . the absolute only thing involved in the development of a car is materiality and mechanics.
Along comes a more balanced mind to ask, "but what organized the parts into a car?"
Now here's where it get twisted. The person who believes a car is only mechanics and matter is a mechanic. All he does is look at mechanics. He goes to school and studies mechanics, his career is mechanics. Since it is all he looks at, guess what? Mechanics is all he sees. Because it's all he looks at and therefore sees, he concludes it's all there is; and since he is a professional mechanic, he thinks he is now in possession of the ultimate type of knowledge of the universe.
Getting back to how he will answer the question of how those parts got organized into a car, he will say "why mechanics must be self-organizing since all there is in this universe is mechanics and matter." If you ask for proof that matter can self-organize to such a high-functioning degree, he won't be able to prove it beyond a few superficial steps, but that doesn't stop him from lecturing others on how ignorant they are for doubting mechanicism.
quantumcarl said:There is one unique quality about a neural network like the one that comprises our brains.
Our brains come up with concepts like how its "special" in comparison to everything else. Whereas rocks, plants and those animals other than humans cannot be proven to have created the same delusion of "specialness".
Well, if you want to be dumb as a rock, knock yourself out. My preference is to feel it is rather special to know I exist.
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