A I want to evaluate Doppler

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1. Mar 12, 2016

redkiss

full screen (high res)
http://images.tinypic.pl/i/00765/8g7j8biccn4d.jpg [Broken]

Em Wave = LIGHT
Em Wave = Radio

Equator

Source------L---------Sensor

How big L we need use to register Doppler ?
I wan to measure 360/24h speed

Big Question ?!

single arm we have Doppler (RED ) [ more long arm ---> more deep RED ]

4 Arms and we have ZERO ????
how it works ? can You explain me this by math !?

Thank You for solve above problem
( i want to build singnle arm to measure 360/24h ) can I do this in Home ?

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2. Mar 12, 2016

Staff: Mentor

Speed of what relative to what?
Those sketches are not very clear.

3. Mar 12, 2016

redkiss

Good question ( we have signal / earth and motion )
Earth is moving ?

we have ZERO SHIFT ?

source ------------------mirror

Mirror see the same COLOUR ?

FIRST please SOLVE ONE ARM
later please study Michelson Morley ZERO

We have Zero or Doppler ?

More Long Arm = More deep RED ????
OR
More Long Arm = More SURE ZERO ???

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4. Mar 12, 2016

Staff: Mentor

You can edit your posts if you want to add something.
Relative to what? There is no absolute motion.
Of what relative to what?
Mirrors don't see color. Same as what? If the distance between source and mirror does not change, and if the system is inertial, the source will see reflected light with the same color as the emitted light.
That does not make sense at all.

5. Mar 12, 2016

redkiss

"Mirrors don't see color. Same as what? If the distance between source and mirror does not change, and if the system is inertial, the source will see reflected light with the same color as the emitted light."

Please slowly Study right down CORNER ( on ilustration ) it is simple example ( not real data) but it schould learn You mehanism
http://images.tinypic.pl/i/00765/8g7j8biccn4d.jpg [Broken]

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6. Mar 12, 2016

redkiss

Earth (s)------L---(m)

s- source
m - mirror/detector

How Deep RED see mirror
L=10m
L=200 m

speed 360 / 24h

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7. Mar 12, 2016

Staff: Mentor

Are you asking what is the relativistic red shift starting from sea level at the equator and going vertically to an altitude of L?

8. Mar 13, 2016

redkiss

Thank you very much for conversation
I'm not expert about Einstein I need strong help

I'm sorry IT IS POSSIBLE or NOT possible TO MEASURE RED ?

jpg A Person on moon SEE DOOPLER ?

jpg B Person on Big Planet See doppler ?

jpg C we can change EM source position

AFTER WE CHAGE POSITION ( X1 )
PLESE LOOK BELOW ( WE HAVE DOPPLER or NOT ? observer 1 ,2,3,4,.......?)

IT IS DOPLER RED or NOT ?

WHY I ASKING ABOUT ALL THIS QUESTIONS

( MY TARGET )

during test when I changing ARM ( I testing more long / more short arm ) I SEE RED !?

I WANT TO USE MATHEMATICA and PROVE BELOW PROBLEMS
( thank You for help )

I WANT TO DEVELOP ABOVE DOPPLER ???
FOR ATOM ( center-----electron )

I LIKE MR MACH ( Rmach )

Einstein and Above ? in my opinion for methabolism important is direction and speed
I wan to test more problems Each Colour = Force !

HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING MY BODY ? EARTH ?
HOW HEAVY I'm ? how to separate Q=mg and EM presure ?

BULB ------------------------CAMERA

HOW big FORCE ( em preasure is pushing camera ? )

2011 Grover Swartzlander first began to examine a revolutionary concept in optical physics after studying the flight of a moth. He watched the animal use its wings to create lift, which led to flight. Swartzlander asked : Could light be used to create the same effect?

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9. Mar 13, 2016

Staff: Mentor

I am sorry redkiss, this large amount of confusing images and small amount of confusing text is impossible to follow. I don't think that we can help here.

I think that the formula you want to use is either the last one in the section on "Time dilation due to gravitation and motion together" here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#Time_dilation_due_to_gravitation_and_motion_together

Or the last equation here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect#Accelerated_motion