# I wish to build a cyclotron but i need to know if there are any issues legality wise!

1. Apr 28, 2012

### Zachel42

Ok , so I was wondering if you could legally build a cyclotron accelerator , I am fourteen years old , so if there are any permits required , would they be accessible by a fourteen year old? , I realize it has the potential to produce ionization radiation , and thats the part that i think i might need a permit for , and if i do (assuming building one in the first place is legal at all) would that permit be accessible to a fourteen year old ? , If not , would I be able to have a parent aquire that permit and I still operate it ? , I know it would take a long time to build , which is why i wish to start now , because i do (if within legal boundaries) wish to use it as my senior project , I have read several books on particle accelerators ,and i believe i (along with a few friends ) would be able to , but before i proceed ,i want to make sure im not committing a crime .

2. Apr 28, 2012

### Zachel42

Re: I wish to build a cyclotron but i need to know if there are any issues legality w

sorry if i posted this in the wrong thread , i just assumed it would be quantum mechanics because it has to do with accelerating ionized hydrogen

3. Apr 28, 2012

### your_mom

Re: I wish to build a cyclotron but i need to know if there are any issues legality w

First issue- cost...it will cost quite a pretty penny to acquire the raw materials needed.
Second issue- age/inexperience...i will not judge wether or not you have the know;edge to build this machine, but do to the dangers present, and possible miss-calculation on part of the third party, eg- friends, I dont know safe it would be... My advice...just wait.
I like your enthusiasm though, keep it up, if physics is your thing, STICK TO IT!!!

4. Apr 28, 2012

### Staff: Mentor

5. Apr 28, 2012

### Zachel42

Re: I wish to build a cyclotron but i need to know if there are any issues legality w

Thanks ,but miscalculation wouldnt be a problem with the 3rd party, as much as it would be with me , luckily I have a friend who is a genius when it comes to mathamatics , as in solving equations given to my father(who is in colleauge) , in linear algebra faster than my father can , which is really surprising considoring were both in the 7th grade ,Im more of a hardware and engineering guy , than a mathmatician(the highest level math ive done is basic calc ,( partial differetiation , and a bit of integration) , but costwise , 7000$-8000$ , is the budget(at the moment) which probably isnt near enough , do u think you could give us a cost estimate ? , and thank you for the encouragement , and your probably right , were too young to be building something like that , but if achieved , im sure we would get a nifty grade on our senior project , i have looked at some previous designs and it doesnt seem too complex , the manipulation of the magnetic field might be the toughest part , but again the 3rd parties at my disposal are extremely smart,but all in all (asuming we could do it in all legality , and costwise)i believe we would be able to .

6. Apr 28, 2012

### Zachel42

Re: I wish to build a cyclotron but i need to know if there are any issues legality w

Oh and the part we might need some advice on , we wouldnt know where to start when it comes to the vacuum , any advice?

7. Apr 29, 2012