# Ian Thorp beat Michael Phelps

1. Aug 16, 2004

### Saint

Ian Thorpe overcame defending champ Pieter van den Hoogenband to win Monday's swimming showdown in the 200 freestyle. Michael Phelps ended with Brinze medal.

I think Phelps is too bombastic to aim for 8 gold medals,
Thorpe swam much better than him.

For the women's 100m breaststroke , china's Luo Xuejean beat Leisel Jones of australia.
Surprise

2. Aug 16, 2004

### cragwolf

I didn't think Thorpe was going to be able to do it, because my impression from the earlier races was that he had lost some ground since the last Olympics. But still, Phelps was never favoured to win the 200m freestyle.

Leisel Jones was a huge disappointment. Her typically slow start off the blocks was even worse than usual, and so she was never going to gun down Luo. She has a better chance, I think, in the 200m. That's where her redemption lies.

Aaron Piersol is a champion. That guy never looks like he is going to lose.

Tonight should be interesting with the Men's 4x200m freestyle, and the Men's 200m butterfly. The Aussies should win the former (although their lame performance in the 4x100m doesn't fill me with much confidence in making that prediction), and Phelps should win the latter, although he'll have some company near the finish, particularly with that British guy whose name I forget.

3. Aug 17, 2004

### jimmy p

Well Phelps beat Thorpe in the 200m butterfly. Unfortunately. Thorpe got bronze though, so at least it is a medal.

4. Aug 17, 2004

### jimmy p

OoooOOOOOoooops... that wasnt Thorpe, that was Perry... my bad!

5. Aug 17, 2004

### Chi Meson

It was the hyper media that was going for 8 gold medals, not Phelps! Every time the topic comes up, Phelps has restated that his goal was to get ONE gold medal. The fact that he was a contender for up to 8 medals has gotten blown out of proportion. Depending on who you listen to, he only had a serious chance for four or five golds, all of them by rather slim margins.

NBC just wanted another Spitz to report on. Phelps' style in front of the media has hardly been bombastic. He's no Gary Hall.

6. Aug 17, 2004

### Saint

Phelps won another 2 gold medals last night,
now totally he got 3 golds.
Thorpe got 2 golds.

7. Aug 17, 2004

### Civilian2

We didn't snag the 4x200 cragwolf :(
Yanks did us.....

Liesel was a MASSIVE dissapointment. The Chinese certainly are on course to perform at the Beijing Olympics I should think and I have been very impressed with alot of Japanese performances in the pool.

how good was Sara Carrigans' win in the cycling!?!? I'm not usually up for sitting through hours of cycling but I certainly enjoyed that race.

8. Aug 17, 2004

### cragwolf

I don't think this should be turned into a Thorpe vs Phelps thread. Phelps is a fine freestyler and a great butterflyer. Thorpe is a great freestyler. Both have been very successful in these games.

Well, another Aussie disappointment, this time in the 4x200m. I think they lost it in Hackett's leg, and the last 30m of Klim's leg. Thorpe did an incredible job in his leg, and the other guy did a very good job. The US just have that something extra. I'm not so confident in Leisel winning the 200m breaststroke now; her opponents are too good. I think the Aussie women might be able to grab one or two more golds, and Hackett should win the 1500m, so I think there will be a total of 6 or 7 golds in the swimming for the Aussies. The US will get more than that; they just have a lot more depth.

9. Aug 18, 2004

### Saint

I think Phelps will win more medals than Thorpe.

Malaysia's badminton lost all games, came back empty handed!
China could have won more medals if her athletes did not make mistake such as in men's diving.

10. Aug 18, 2004

### Saint

The gold winner of olympic of US, will they be given MONEY when they returned home?

11. Aug 19, 2004

### Chi Meson

Depending on their stature and their physique (sex appeal) they will get contracts to appear as speakers or in pictures. Many will be pictured on cereal boxes, several will appear in swimsuits and underwear etc.

Some gold medalists will get squat (nothing, f**k all) because they did not get media coverage and they might not be photogenic. In short, the US government does NOT pay the gold medalists anything, but corporate contracts can made some of them very rich. Phelps, for one, will be very happy.

PS: TYLER! TYLER!

12. Aug 19, 2004

### Dagenais

They aren't the only Country doing this. You seem surprised, but you shouldn't be.

http://www.couchmaster.ca/qod/index.cfm?qod_id=282 [Broken]

Canada doesn't pay Canadians for medals. They're solely out there just to represent their Country, maybe bring back a medal and support their sport.

Amanda Beard and Jennie Finch are examples.

Wrong.

As you can see above, the US gives $25,000 for a gold medal,$15,000 for a silver and $10,000 for a bronze. Speedo offered Phelps$1,000,000USD if he could get 8 Golds. He couldn't, so he doesn't get the cash.

He didn't seem very happy.

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13. Aug 19, 2004

### Saint

why Aaron Peirsol was disqualified

14. Aug 19, 2004

### Chi Meson

I just did a google, and it seems as if things have changed from the old days. So yeah, now they do get a chunk of cash for their medals. Can't say I like that approach.
Minor point though: the USOC is not a branch of the government. It is a chartered organization that operates under congressional scrutiny. Their money is raised primarily through corporate sponsorship rather than taxes. So, by way of extreme technicality, I wasn't totally wrong!

15. Aug 22, 2004

### Saint

Phelps got 5 golds, he is the greatest swimmer in this session of olympic.

16. Aug 22, 2004

### cragwolf

Sigh, at least get the numbers right: Phelps got six gold medals.