How Do You Calculate Moles and RMS Speed in Ideal Gas Problems?

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In summary: I'm not sure, but that's what it says in the text.In summary, the gas in a container will have a pressure that is proportional to the cube of the mean square speed of the gas.
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I have this sheet to do but I think its really hard! I've tried most of the questions but I need someone to tell me if what I've done is right or wrong and what is wrong if it is wrong because I'm not sure on a lot of it!

1. A cylinder contains 2.3 x 10^4 cm3 of an ideal gas at a pressure of 1.8 x 10^7 Pa and a temperature of 27C.

Calculate the amount, in mol, of gas in the cylinder

The main thing here I'm not too sure about is the conversion of the volume into m3. Will it be 2.3 x 10^-2m3? Because this gave me an end answer of 166 moles which seems like quite a lot..

2. Some neon-20 gas, assumed to be ideal, has a volume of 160 cm3 at a pressure of 1.2 x 10^5Pa and a temperature of 23C.

Calculate:
a) the amount of substance in mol

again not really too sure about converting to m3 but this is what I've done:
160 cm3 = 160 x 10^-6m3

pV = nRT
1.2 x 10^5 x 1.6 x 10^-4 = n x 8.31 x 296
n = 7.81 x 10^-3

b) the number of atoms of neon present

Ermm don't know if what is right but I multiplied my answer from a) by Avogadros constant (6.02 x 10^23) to get 4.7 x 10^21.

c) the mass of a neon atom

I used this moles formula here
moles = mass
Mr
mass = 7.81 x 10^-3 x 10 = 7.81 x 10^-2

d) the rms speed of the atoms

Well I guess this depends on whether my previous answers are correct but this is what I did!

pV = 1/3Nm(mean square speed)
1.2 x 10^5 x 160 x 10^-6 = 1/3 x 7.81 x 10^-2 x (mean square speed)
mean square speed = 73.8
root mean square speed = 8.59 m/s

3. Last question now!

Calculate the factor by which the rms speed of the molecules of an ideal gas will change when temperature of the gas changes from 20C to 120C.

I'm just pretty much stuck with this question!



Thanks very much for any help!
 
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Question 1 to question 2b seem ok to me.
again not really too sure about converting to m3 but this is what I've done:
160 cm3 = 160 x 10^-6m3
This is correct.

the mass of a neon atom.
I used this moles formula here
moles = mass/Molar mass
mass = 7.81 x 10^-3 x 10 = 7.81 x 10^-2
Molar mass of Neon is 20, not 10

pV = 1/3Nm(mean square speed)
1.2 x 10^5 x 160 x 10^-6 = 1/3 x 7.81 x 10^-2 x (mean square speed)
pV = 1/3Nm(mean square speed)
1.2 x 10^5 x 160 x 10^-6 = 1/3 x 7.81 x 10^-2 x mass x (mean square speed)
but not
1.2 x 10^5 x 160 x 10^-6 = 1/3 x 7.81 x 10^-2 x (mean square speed)

Calculate the factor by which the rms speed of the molecules of an ideal gas will change when temperature of the gas changes from 20C to 120C.
Use the following formula
rms speed = sqrt (3RT/Molar Mass)

I think you should know how to derive the formula above from pV = 1/3Nm(mean square speed)
 
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Can someone explain why the pressure due to an ideal gas in a container is given by [tex]P = \frac{1}{3}\rho<c^2>[/tex]? (rho is the density of the gas and <c^2> is the mean square speed)
I happen to have the derivation of the eqn at hand, but somehow, there is this particular step in it I didn't understand; it's the step in which they calculated the change of momentum for a single gas molecule to be 2mv. Since force exerted on container walls is given by [tex]F = \frac {\triangle p}{\triangle t}[/tex] which means the change of momentum (p) divided by the time taken for the momentum to change.

However, in the case of the gas particle, [tex]\triangle t[/tex] was taken to be [tex]\frac {2l}{v}[/tex]! (l is the length of the cuboid container, and v is velocity of the gas molecule). Why?
 

1. What is an ideal gas?

An ideal gas is a theoretical gas that follows the gas laws, such as Boyle's law, Charles' law, and Avogadro's law, under all conditions. It is composed of point particles that have negligible volume and do not interact with each other.

2. What is the kinetic theory of gases?

The kinetic theory of gases is a model that explains the behavior of gases based on the motion of their particles. It states that gases are composed of tiny particles that are in constant, random motion and that the temperature of a gas is directly proportional to the average kinetic energy of its particles.

3. How does the kinetic theory explain the properties of ideal gases?

The kinetic theory explains the properties of ideal gases by stating that the particles of an ideal gas have no volume and do not interact with each other, allowing them to move freely and independently. This results in the gas having a uniform pressure, volume, and temperature, and following the gas laws under all conditions.

4. What factors affect the kinetic energy of gas particles?

The kinetic energy of gas particles is affected by the temperature of the gas, the mass of the particles, and the speed at which they are moving. As the temperature increases, the kinetic energy of the particles also increases, and as the mass of the particles increases, the kinetic energy decreases. The speed of the particles also plays a role, with faster-moving particles having a higher kinetic energy.

5. Can real gases behave like ideal gases?

Under certain conditions, real gases can behave like ideal gases. This is typically at low pressures and high temperatures, where the particles have more space to move and do not interact with each other as much. However, at high pressures and low temperatures, real gases deviate from ideal gas behavior due to intermolecular forces and the volume of the particles becoming significant.

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