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Identity matrix help

  1. Mar 11, 2010 #1
    Say i have a matrix ,

    [tex]\begin{bmatrix}{4}&{3}\\{-1}&{7}\end{bmatrix}+5[/tex]

    is it correct if i do it this way ,

    [tex]\begin{bmatrix}{4}&{3}\\{-1}&{7}\end{bmatrix}+5\begin{bmatrix}{1}&{0}\\{0}&{1}\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

    [tex]=\begin{bmatrix}{9}&{3}\\{-1}&{12}\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

    is 5 a scalar = 5I where I is an identity matrix ?
     
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  3. Mar 11, 2010 #2
    Re: matrix

    yes, I think you are correct
     
  4. Mar 11, 2010 #3
    Re: matrix

    but one problem, how can you make a prediction about the size of that matrix as 2 x 2. I can say that the unit matrix is of 3 x 3 or 4 x 4 and then can you add?
     
  5. Mar 11, 2010 #4
    Re: matrix

    thanks , how if we assume that the identity matrix is a 2x2 matrix ? since the given matrix is also a 2x2

    btw , i have this question ,

    is 0 = [tex]\begin{bmatrix}{0}&{0}\\{0}&{0}\end{bmatrix}[/tex] (zero matrix)


    or 2 = [tex]\begin{bmatrix}{2}&{2}\\{2}&{2}\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
     
  6. Mar 11, 2010 #5
    Re: matrix

    answer is yes for first, in the case of multiplication you can consider but when have to add you can't do it because you can only add it when both the matrix is of same order. To multiply any matrix with any scalar you have to multiply every term inside the matrix by that scalar.
     
  7. Mar 11, 2010 #6
    Re: matrix

    Also I'm not sure whether 2 = [tex]
    \begin{bmatrix}{2}&{2}\\{2}&{2}\end{bmatrix}
    [/tex]

    In my view it is wrong to write.
     
  8. Mar 11, 2010 #7

    HallsofIvy

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    Re: matrix

    No, in general the sum of a vector or matrix and a scalar is simply not defined. "A+ 5" where A is a matrix makes no sense. Writing "5" or any other scalar to indicate a matrix is very bad notation. If it is intended to be interpreted as "A+ 5I" then it should be written that way.
     
  9. Mar 11, 2010 #8

    HallsofIvy

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    Re: matrix

    It would be better to write 0 = [tex]\begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}[/tex] where I have specifically used bold face for the "0" to indicate it is NOT a scalar but a matrix.

    In general, the 0 matrix is NOT equal to the 0 scalar. A scalar is not, and cannot be equal to, a matrix.
     
  10. Mar 11, 2010 #9
    Re: matrix

    I need verification for my view from another members here. I think matrix is not any number like determinant. It is only a set of data so it is meaningless to add or subtract it by any scalar cause addition and subtraction is only done between two quantities having same dimension. Like you can't add velocity and displacement similarly you can't add matrix and scalar. One can add determinant with scalar cause it is also a number which can be found upon its solution.
     
  11. Mar 11, 2010 #10
    Re: matrix

    thanks all for helping , i got it !
     
  12. Mar 11, 2010 #11

    Mark44

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    Re: matrix

    Right -- a matrix and a number are different. As HallsOfIvy said in his post, it is meaningless to add a scalar (number) and a matrix.

    The addition problem posed in the OP is meaningless.
     
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