If earth's density wasn't uniform then the gravitational force

In summary: Vanadium 50 means a density distribution which varies with depth: like that the core shells are more dense that the outer shell. This distribution doesn't affect the gravity outside the Earth which is also symmetrical.Vanadium is correct in that a uniform density would alter Earth's gravity by a factor of two. However, this does not happen because the Earth's density is not uniform. The mass and radius of the Earth determine the gravity on the surface.
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is it true that if Earth's density wasn't uniform then the gravitational force was half of what it is now? can you give me a mathematical calculation of why that would reduce to half of its current value.thanks:smile:
 
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You have to say exactly what sort of density you're looking at. By simply stating non-uniform, the gravitational force could be anything depending on exactly what the density is. A 1/r density gives a different force than a [tex]\frac{1}{r^2}[/tex] which gives a different force than a[tex]\frac{1}{r^3}[/tex] which gives a different force then...
 
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The Earth's density isn't uniform.

Nonetheless, the density distribution of the Earth does not influence the gravity at the surface. That's determined solely by the mass and radius.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The Earth's density isn't uniform.

Nonetheless, the density distribution of the Earth does not influence the gravity at the surface. That's determined solely by the mass and radius.

oops! i meant if the density was uniform the gravity was half of its value. are u sure? if yes what does this article say?
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/publications/press/032007_discovermag.pdf
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The Earth's density isn't uniform.

Nonetheless, the density distribution of the Earth does not influence the gravity at the surface. That's determined solely by the mass and radius.

MissMath said:
oops! i meant if the density was uniform the gravity was half of its value. are u sure? if yes what does this article say?
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/publications/press/032007_discovermag.pdf

Vanadium 50 means a density distribution which varies with depth: like that the core shells are more dense that the outer shell. This distribution doesn't affect the gravity outside the Earth which is also symmetrical.

The article refers to the fact that the Earth is not a sphere, and the density on the surface varies from place to place. This affects gravity in certain places.

I didn't read the article , but where does it say gravity was half of its value if the density was uniform.
 
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MissMath said:
oops! i meant if the density was uniform the gravity was half of its value. are u sure? if yes what does this article say?
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/publications/press/032007_discovermag.pdf
The article doesn't say anything like that.

Vanadium 50 said:
The Earth's density isn't uniform.

Nonetheless, the density distribution of the Earth does not influence the gravity at the surface. That's determined solely by the mass and radius.
That's not true, either. Knowing how Earth's gravity varies with latitude and longitude is very important if you want to, for example, accurately predict the motion of a satellite or find a new oil field.

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The above plot shows the difference between Earth gravity and that from a simple ellipsoidal model of the Earth. A Gal, or galileo, is 1 cm/s2. An mGal is 0.001 cm/s2. Note that the variations in this plot (plus or minus 100 mGal) are small compared to 1 g, 980.665 Gal.

The above is based on a very large (2160x2190) spherical harmonics model of Earth's gravity field, the Earth Gravity Model 2008 (EGM2008). See http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/wgs84/gravitymod/index.html.
 
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D H said:
That's not true, either. Knowing how Earth's gravity varies with latitude and longitude is very important if you want to, for example, accurately predict the motion of a satellite or find a new oil field.

While that's true, let's go back to the OP's question.

MissMath said:
is it true that if Earth's density wasn't uniform then the gravitational force was half of what it is now? can you give me a mathematical calculation of why that would reduce to half of its current value.thanks:smile:

We're not talking about the tiny non-uniformities that let one find oil fields, we're talking about factors of two. So while I probably should have had a couple of paragraphs of caveats, the approximation of the Earth as a sphere whose density depends only on radius is a pretty good one to answer the OP's question.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
While that's true, let's go back to the OP's question. ... the approximation of the Earth as a sphere whose density depends only on radius is a pretty good one to answer the OP's question.
In light of the original post which posits that a uniform density would alter Earth's gravity by a factor of two, Vanadium is correct. Assume the Earth is spherical and isn't rotating. So long as the Earth's density depends only on radius, how that density varies with distance from the center of the Earth does not affect gravity on the surface by one bit. All that matters is the total mass of the Earth. Here are three models for this hypothetical spherical, non-rotating Earth:
  1. A sphere with radius 6371 km and a uniform density of 5.5153 gram per cubic centimeter.
  2. An ultra-dense inner sphere with a radius of 100 km and a density of 1.40036 kg per cubic millimeter surrounded by a very light outer shell with a thickness of 6271 km, an outer radius of 6371 km, and a density of 0.1 gram per cubic centimeter.
  3. A very light inner sphere with a radius of 6370.99 km and a density of 0.1 grams per cubic centimeter surrounded by an ultra-dense outer shell with a thickness of 10 meters, an outer radius 6371 km, and a density of 1.15003 kg per cubic millimeter.

All three models have the same outer radius (6371 km), the same total mass (5.9742×1024 kg). Despite the huge differences in internal makeup, all three models have the same surface gravity, 9.8217 m/s2.
 

1. What would happen if the Earth's density was not uniform?

If the Earth's density was not uniform, the gravitational force would vary in different regions of the Earth. This could result in uneven distribution of mass, causing the Earth to become lopsided and potentially leading to changes in its rotation and orbit.

2. Would the strength of gravity change if the Earth's density was not uniform?

Yes, the strength of gravity would change in different regions of the Earth. This is because the gravitational force is directly proportional to the mass of an object, so areas with higher density would have a stronger gravitational force than areas with lower density.

3. How would uneven density affect objects on the Earth's surface?

Objects on the Earth's surface would experience varying levels of gravitational force depending on their location. This could result in objects falling or moving towards areas with higher density, and potentially causing disruptions in natural processes like tides or weather patterns.

4. Are there any real-world examples of non-uniform density affecting gravity?

Yes, the Earth's density is not completely uniform and this can be seen in the variations in gravity experienced in different parts of the world. For example, the force of gravity is slightly stronger at the poles compared to the equator due to differences in the Earth's density.

5. Would uneven density on Earth have any impact on other planets or objects in our solar system?

Yes, uneven density on Earth could have an impact on other planets or objects in our solar system. This is because gravity not only affects objects on Earth, but also influences the motion and orbits of celestial bodies. Any changes in the Earth's gravity and mass distribution could potentially affect the gravitational interactions between planets and objects in our solar system.

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