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If this is my final post, so be it.

  1. Oct 19, 2004 #1
    I posted something about me having trouble with an Arabian owner of a gas station and was given a warning and my post was locked up. I just want to post a follow up. I was recently hired to survey 30 different gas stations in Northern California. I had no problem with 27 of those, however, on the other 3 I was not allowed on the property to do my job. Coincidently all three of those were owned by gentlemen from the middle east. The other 27 were not owned by gentlemen from the Middle East.
    Here's were there seems to be a misunderstanding. I never said that anyone was inferior to anyone else, I was talking about their philosophy. Is it racist to say that someone raised in the middle east has a different philosophy than someone raised in Japan?
    Is it a coincidence that these three were the only ones I had a problem with? Everyone needs to quit being so damn sensitive, philosophy differs throughout the world. If I had said that the Japanese owners were very accomodating and seemed really interested in our equipment and techniques, and that the American owners had a "whatever" attitude would anyone have been upset? Human is human, no one race is superior to another. Cultures on the other hand are different and if you can't see that, then maybe you actually are inferior.
     
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  3. Oct 19, 2004 #2

    jimmy p

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    w00t your back tribdog. I forbid any mentors from banning him. Everyone's opinions are different, much like these gas-station assistants. I read the post and I dont think he was being racist, he was just stating something he noticed that day.
     
  4. Oct 19, 2004 #3

    plover

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    Howdy tribdog--

    While I don't think your previous gas station post was intended to be racist either, I suspect that is because I've read enough of your other posts to be familiar with your sense of humor. For someone who encountered that post in isolation, I don't think there's enough there to decipher your take on things. And, er, Apu is Indian not Arab.

    Also, if these guys at the gas stations have been hassled by racists in the past, they might just be exercising justifiable caution.
     
  5. Oct 19, 2004 #4

    Phobos

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    Have you discussed this with Evo yet (or whomever locked that topic)? In general, it is best to first approach these complaints through the PM system before airing a general complaint to the forum.

    Here's the locked topic...
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=45815

    Personally, I agree the topic deserves to be locked....a questionable OP and two unacceptable responses.
     
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  6. Oct 19, 2004 #5
    TRIBDOG, you were surveying for what exactly?Asking them about war in Iraq
    ,terrorism?
    If yes, I would not only kick you out of their property but call police.
     
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  7. Oct 19, 2004 #6

    Gokul43201

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    I'd like to respond in my defense, if I may. My post was entirely in jest (big green smiley), and entirely in response to the reply.

    This of course, does not mean that it was not unacceptable.
     
  8. Oct 19, 2004 #7

    Evo

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    It wasn't me, but I also would have locked it.
     
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  9. Oct 19, 2004 #8

    Phobos

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    Understood/agree.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2004 #9
    Liar, you did it on purpose. Of course you contributed so you don't get any warnings. Very nice moderating indeed.
     
  11. Oct 19, 2004 #10
    He was surveying gas stations. "Survey says nine out of ten gas stations owners reject war in Iraq" I dont think so.
     
  12. Oct 19, 2004 #11

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    The way the other post is worded, it sounds like it was the first two out of two, not just 3 out of 30. What I got from that post is that you went out on a job site unprepared: that letter from whoever hired you is a must. Its perfectly reasonable to kick you off their property if you are unable to produce evidence of why you should be there.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2004 #12
    Also consider that in recent years these guys have probably had to put up with a lot of harassment and racism that they didn't deserve. Their responses, thoguh perhaps not rational, are not necessarily unwarranted.

    Also the original thread was inflammatory, you were obviously upset when you post it. While what you had meant is more clear now, that thread was going bad places fast, and needed to be locked.
     
  14. Oct 19, 2004 #13

    chroot

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    Many contributors have gotten warnings. I've issued a good percentage of them.

    - Warren
     
  15. Oct 19, 2004 #14

    Gokul43201

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    What am I being accused of here ? :confused:

    And how does someone (that is not a mentor/admin) get to know whether or not I've been warned ? :confused:
     
  16. Oct 19, 2004 #15

    Tom Mattson

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    He doesn't know. He's just sore because I warned him a couple of days ago for calling someone a moron.
     
  17. Oct 19, 2004 #16
    Edited for truth.

    Two can play that game.

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