Performing Detection with IID RV: Unknown PDF & Neamen Pearson Test Efficiency

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In summary, when you are performing detection, and you have received this y(n)=x(n)+z(n) for n=0,1,2,3..., where z is gaussian noise, but about x(n) you don't know its distribution, all you know that it is I.I.D. random variable with zero mean and fxed given variance. Now my question is can we still perform the Neamen Pearson test. p(y;H1)/p(y;H0)>gamma in the same manner we do when x distribution is completely known. If the answer to the above question is yes then will the pdf of p(y;H1) be
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1) When we are performing detection , and we have received this y(n)=x(n)+z(n) for n=0,1,2,3..., where z is gaussian noise, but about x(n) we don't know its distribution , all we know that it is I.I.D. random variable with zero mean and fxed given variance. Now my question is can we still perform the Neamen Pearson test . p(y;H1)/p(y;H0)>gamma in the same manner we do when x distribution is completely known.

2) If the answer to the above question is yes then will the pdf of p(y;H1) be gaussian with mean=0 and variance = (noise variance + signal variance).

3) Can you please refer me to useful texts where i can find how COST functions are modeled for signal detection systems.

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What exactly are your hypotheses?

A Gaussian would apply if you are talking about the distribution of the sum or average of a large number of signals.

If your hypotheses are about a single signal , such as H0: y[3] = 5 , I think you are out of luck.
 
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hi well i have say N number of samples and it can be assumed to be large. actually its a standard detection problem in signal processing , when you are looking for the presence or absence of a signal . H0 means that the signal is not there and the variance of data is say sigma0 and under H1 when the signal is present then the variance of the received data is sigma1.
Inshort yes , the signals come from the distributions of large no. of signals.
 
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H0 means that the signal is not there and the variance of data is say sigma0 and under H1 when the signal is present then the variance of the received data is sigma1

To use Neyman-Peason you must pick some statistic or statistics and compute the likelihood of their observed value given each of the sigma's. If your idea is to use the individual values of the observed signals y[0], y[1],... as the statistics, you cannot compute the liklihood of this vector of values without assuming some specific probability distribution for the x. If you use a statistic involving the sum of the y, you can approximate this distribution as normal. For example, the mean, y_bar, of a sample of n of the y is approximately normally distributed.
 
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Thanks Stephen, that solves the problem ,

anyway it means that we don't know what happens when we add IID RV (say: mean=0, var=1, unknown pdf) to a gaussian pdf (mean=0, var=1). should the resultng pdf remain a gaussian with var=2. thanks again
 

1. What is IID RV with unknown PDF?

IID RV stands for independent and identically distributed random variable. This means that each random variable in a dataset is independent from one another and follows the same probability distribution. A PDF, or probability density function, is a mathematical function that describes the likelihood of a random variable taking on a particular value. An IID RV with unknown PDF refers to a random variable where the probability distribution is not known or cannot be determined.

2. How is IID RV with unknown PDF different from other types of random variables?

IID RV with unknown PDF differs from other types of random variables in that the probability distribution is not known. This means that the likelihood of a particular outcome cannot be accurately predicted, making it more difficult to analyze and model.

3. What are some examples of IID RV with unknown PDF?

Examples of IID RV with unknown PDF can include weather patterns, stock market fluctuations, and human behavior. In these situations, the underlying probability distribution is not known and can vary over time.

4. How can IID RV with unknown PDF be analyzed?

IID RV with unknown PDF can be analyzed through various statistical methods, such as hypothesis testing and regression analysis. These techniques can help to identify patterns and make predictions, even without knowing the exact probability distribution.

5. What are the limitations of studying IID RV with unknown PDF?

The main limitation of studying IID RV with unknown PDF is the uncertainty surrounding the probability distribution. Without knowing the underlying distribution, it can be difficult to make accurate predictions or draw meaningful conclusions. Additionally, the complexity and unpredictability of IID RV with unknown PDF can make it challenging to analyze and interpret results.

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