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Impeach Bush/Cheney . . .

  1. Oct 22, 2005 #1

    Astronuc

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    After reading several threads, the only recourse left is to force these individuals out of office and put a stop to the corruption.

    Write your Congressperson and Senator.

    https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=797407&postcount=283

    Humvees in Kuwait, not in Iraq - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=95969

    Valeria Plame - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=83110

    This list could go on and on, and enough is enough.

    And add Rumsfeld and DeLay to that. Make sure they don't come back!
     
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  3. Oct 22, 2005 #2

    russ_watters

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    What should the charges be?
     
  4. Oct 22, 2005 #3

    Astronuc

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    Begin with misleading Congress about the reasons for war. Bush had it on his mind to wage war in Iraq - before he was president. How about malfeasance - misconduct - in office?

    As for Cheney, let's see what falls out of the Plame affair.
     
  5. Oct 22, 2005 #4

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_113C.html
     
  6. Oct 22, 2005 #5

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    You might also add corruption charges on Bush.
    It shouldn't be too difficult to prove those.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2005 #6

    Ivan Seeking

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    Apparently the aluminum tubes have come up a number of times as well during questioning .
     
  8. Oct 22, 2005 #7

    SOS2008

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    With a quick google, I was surprised at how many sites there were on the topic. The first page:

    1) For Failing to Act on 9-11 Warnings

    2) Dereliction Of Duty (most specifically Katrina)

    3) High Crimes and Misdemeanors - Most notably:

    This site is sponsored by various journalists and activists who have a petition people can sign requesting impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

    http://elandslide.org/elandslide/petition.cfm?campaign=impeach&refer=home

    4) Treason (regarding the Plame case)

    The Blood For Oil Artwork for Anti-War/Empire was interesting...
     
  9. Oct 22, 2005 #8
    The scandal sheet

    You may need to watch a short advertisement before accessing Salon.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index.html

    Clerverly leading the American people to believe that there was a connection between 9/11 and Iraq was the most immoral action that a president has ever comitted. "Grave and gathering danger my arse"

    No matter how clever the indoctrination of the American people was, it was not legal. To accomplish it Bush commited; fraud, corruption, and conspiracy.

    Without "big money ties" Bush would have been gone after his first term on any one of a number of charges.
     
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  10. Oct 22, 2005 #9
    I have gut feeling that anyone who signs this will end up on an FBI watch list.:mad: I signed on anyway.:smile:
     
  11. Oct 22, 2005 #10
    Just one point- for the derliction of duty-

    Katrina can not be laid at Bush's feet for one specific reason.

    Mainly, legally, his hands were tied. Bush was not allowed, by law, to give any support to lousiana untill they asked for it. Once they asked for it, the federal goverment responded in a relativly timely manner. (Though reponse was not the most rapid, considering the circumstances, it actually wasn't that bad"

    2. I have yet to see a deceantly proved accustation yet from these posts
    3. SOS2008- You can not legally impeach over misdeamenors.
     
  12. Oct 23, 2005 #11

    SOS2008

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    Please note--these were findings from various websites via a quick google just to provide an example of thoughts out there among the populace--not anything I came up with myself. There is evidence that pre-emptive invasion is illegal (already debated extensively).

    If you can find it, I started a thread some time back about Bush and how trustworthy and honest he is (or should I say isn't). It was a lot of documentation. I'm certain you could find one thing if you were to be trustworthy and honest about it. :wink:
     
  13. Oct 23, 2005 #12

    Tide

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    I think the topic is totally moot. You can argue all kinds of legal and alleged legal issues but we learned from the last administration that impeachment is a purely political undertaking.
     
  14. Oct 23, 2005 #13
    How do you plan to get the votes from a Republican Congress?
     
  15. Oct 23, 2005 #14

    Ivan Seeking

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    In a year + it won't be Republican anymore.
     
  16. Oct 23, 2005 #15

    Ivan Seeking

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    Nonsense. Nixon was taken down by the mere threat of impeachment and it can be done again. As was evident all along, Clinton's impeachment was political assasination and nothing more, but as with Watergate, this is a matter of a genuine criminal acts of vast proportions by comparison.
     
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  17. Oct 23, 2005 #16
    In charges for impeachment, wouldn't the Downing Street Memos be enough? Add that with our own CIA reports of no WMD in Iraq when Bush claimed there were and that would add credence for treason towards the American public. Those documents could prove that he lied to the American public. Is that not enough?
     
  18. Oct 23, 2005 #17

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    I said charges, Astronuc (Sos, Ivan, et al). Those aren't charges. If you could impeach someone for being an idiot or a jerk, half the Presidents we've had would have been impeached.
     
  19. Oct 23, 2005 #18

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    Hehe. You actually believe that?
     
  20. Oct 23, 2005 #19
    Actually, just curiosity, how many presidents have been impeached in the US, and were they Republicans or Democrats?
     
  21. Oct 23, 2005 #20

    kat

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    Andrew Jackson and Clinton...but niether were convicted. Clinton as you know was a Democrat as was Andrew.
     
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