Finding Stationary Points on Implicitly Differentiated Curves

In summary, to find the coordinates of the stationary points on the curve x^3 + (3x^2)(y) -2y^3=16, first implicitly differentiate the equation to get dy/dx = (x^2 + 2xy) / (2y^2 - x^2). Then, set this equal to zero and solve for y in terms of x. Substitute this back into the original equation to solve for the x and y coordinates of the stationary point.
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Homework Statement



Find the coordinates of the stationary points on the curve:
x^3 + (3x^2)(y) -2y^3=16


Homework Equations


Stationary points occur when the first derivative of y with respect to x is equal to zero



The Attempt at a Solution


I implicitly differentiated the equation and got
dy/dx = (x^2 + 2xy) / (2y^2 - x^2)

I know I have to make this equal to zero but then I'm not sure how to find the x and y coordinates of the stationary point.

Help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
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Hi aanandpatel,

Find y in terms of x from the condition dy/dx=0. Substitute back into the original equation.

ehild
 
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You have two equations,
[tex]x^3 + (3x^2)(y) -2y^3=16[/tex]
and
[tex](x^2 + 2xy) / (2y^2 - x^2)= 0[/tex]
to solve for x and y. The second equation can easily be solved for y in terms of x since a fraction is equal to 0 if and only if the numerator is 0.
 
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Thanks guys - helped a lot! :)
 

1. What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a mathematical technique used to find the derivative of a function that is written in an implicit form, where the dependent variable is not explicitly expressed in terms of the independent variable.

2. How is implicit differentiation different from explicit differentiation?

Explicit differentiation is used to find the derivative of a function that is written in an explicit form, where the dependent variable is explicitly expressed in terms of the independent variable. Implicit differentiation, on the other hand, is used for functions that are not written in an explicit form.

3. What are the steps for using implicit differentiation?

The steps for using implicit differentiation are as follows: 1) Differentiate both sides of the equation with respect to the independent variable. 2) Use the chain rule when differentiating any terms that contain the dependent variable. 3) Isolate the derivative on one side of the equation. 4) Simplify the derivative, if possible.

4. When is implicit differentiation used?

Implicit differentiation is used when finding the derivative of a function that is not written in an explicit form, such as when the dependent variable is hidden in a complex equation or when the function is defined implicitly. It is also used when finding the derivative of inverse functions.

5. What are the advantages of using implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation allows us to find the derivative of functions that cannot be easily differentiated using traditional methods. It also offers a more general approach for finding derivatives, as it can be applied to a wider range of functions. Additionally, it can be useful in solving optimization problems and finding related rates in real-world applications.

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