Solving for Velocity: How to Integrate a Complex Function with Constants?

In summary, to integrate the given equation, we need to first solve for v as a function of t and then integrate it with respect to t, resulting in a quadratic equation with two possible roots. Additional information may be needed to determine the correct root.
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Homework Statement


Integrate
$$v = \sqrt{2g\frac{T-v \pi r^2t}{\pi R^2}}$$

where g,T,r,R are constants

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried playing around with the variables, but I am not sure how to integrate this. Just give me a little bit of hint would do. Thanks!
 
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Sewager said:

Homework Statement


Integrate
$$v = \sqrt{2g\frac{T-v \pi r^2t}{\pi R^2}}$$

where g,T,r,R are constants

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried playing around with the variables, but I am not sure how to integrate this. Just give me a little bit of hint would do. Thanks!

Integrate what? Are you solving for ##v##as a function of ##r## or ##t## for example, then calculating ##\int v\, dr## or ##\int v\, dt##? Or, are you solving for (say) ##r## as a function of ##v## then computing ##\int r \, dv##? Or are you trying to do something else?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Integrate what? Are you solving for ##v##as a function of ##r## or ##t## for example, then calculating ##\int v\, dr## or ##\int v\, dt##? Or, are you solving for (say) ##r## as a function of ##v## then computing ##\int r \, dv##? Or are you trying to do something else?

I sincerely apologize for my lack of explanations.

v is velocity and t is time. The rest are just constants. I want to integrate velocity vs. time to find the displacement equation
 
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Sewager said:
I sincerely apologize for my lack of explanations.

v is velocity and t is time. The rest are just constants. I want to integrate velocity vs. time to find the displacement equation

It will be messy. Just solve for ##v## as a function of ##t## (I.e., ##v = f(t)##) then integrate, or try to. You will get a quadratic equation in ##v##, so there will be two roots (that is, two functions ##v = f_1(t)## or ##v = f_2(t)##) and you will need to figure out which one is the correct root, probably using other information that you have.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
It will be messy. Just solve for ##v## as a function of ##t## (I.e., ##v = f(t)##) then integrate, or try to. You will get a quadratic equation in ##v##, so there will be two roots (that is, two functions ##v = f_1(t)## or ##v = f_2(t)##) and you will need to figure out which one is the correct root, probably using other information that you have.
Thank you very much, I think I have a basic understanding now! Very appreciate it!
 

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Implicit integration is a numerical method used to solve differential equations or systems of equations. It involves using an iterative process to find the solution, rather than directly solving the equations. It is commonly used in physics, engineering, and other scientific fields to model complex systems.

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Explicit integration involves solving equations directly, while implicit integration uses an iterative process to find the solution. This means that implicit integration is more computationally intensive but can handle more complex equations that cannot be solved explicitly. It is also more stable for stiff equations, as it does not require a small time step to maintain accuracy.

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