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I was checking the proof of this, when things came vague at one point.
It goes as follows, how to prove that Lagrange's equations hold in any coordinate system?
Answer:
Let q[itex]_{a}[/itex] = q[itex]_{a}[/itex](x[itex]_{1}[/itex],..., x[itex]_{3N}[/itex], t)
here the possibility of using a coordinate system that changes with time is included.
By chain rule: [itex]\dot{q_{a}}[/itex]= [itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]([itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]t
To be in a good coordinate system, we should be able to invert this relationship, call this equation (1):
[itex]\dot{x_{a}}[/itex]= [itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]^{A}[/itex]([itex]\dot{q^{A}}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]t
Then the book said, now we can examine L(x[itex]^{A}[/itex], [itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]) when we substitute in x[itex]^{A}[/itex](q[itex]_{a}[/itex], t)
Using (1), we have
[itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex] =
([itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex])([itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex][itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]([itex]\partial[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]q[itex]_{b}[/itex]*[itex]\dot{q_{b}}[/itex] + [itex]\partial[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{t}[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex])
My question is I don't understand where the q[itex]_{b}[/itex] come from??
Thank you for your time!
It goes as follows, how to prove that Lagrange's equations hold in any coordinate system?
Answer:
Let q[itex]_{a}[/itex] = q[itex]_{a}[/itex](x[itex]_{1}[/itex],..., x[itex]_{3N}[/itex], t)
here the possibility of using a coordinate system that changes with time is included.
By chain rule: [itex]\dot{q_{a}}[/itex]= [itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]([itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]t
To be in a good coordinate system, we should be able to invert this relationship, call this equation (1):
[itex]\dot{x_{a}}[/itex]= [itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]^{A}[/itex]([itex]\dot{q^{A}}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]_{a}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]t
Then the book said, now we can examine L(x[itex]^{A}[/itex], [itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]) when we substitute in x[itex]^{A}[/itex](q[itex]_{a}[/itex], t)
Using (1), we have
[itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex] =
([itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex])([itex]\partial[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]) + [itex]\partial[/itex]L/[itex]\partial[/itex][itex]\dot{x^{A}}[/itex]([itex]\partial[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex]q[itex]_{b}[/itex]*[itex]\dot{q_{b}}[/itex] + [itex]\partial[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]x[itex]^{A}[/itex]/[itex]\partial[/itex]q[itex]_{t}[/itex]q[itex]_{a}[/itex])
My question is I don't understand where the q[itex]_{b}[/itex] come from??
Thank you for your time!