Are All Functions Dependent on Each Other?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of independence between two functions, with the conclusion that any two functions are not independent in the general sense. However, the conversation also mentions the concept of linear independence between functions, which is determined by the vanishing Wronskian. The concept of independence is not clearly defined and needs to be clarified for a proper understanding.
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Heirot
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When are to functions y1 = f1(x) and y2 = f2(x) independent? It would apper never, because, we can always write x = f1-1 (y1), and therefore y2 is a function of y1. Every function is dependent of any other function. Generally, dy1/dy2 != 0 for arbitrary functions y1 and y2. Is this reasoning correct?
 
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We can, however, talk about linearly-independent functions: namely, functions with vanishing Wronskian.
 
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I can't figure out what the OP is saying about independent functions. It's not the same as the concept of linear independence, is it?
 
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Ben Niehoff said:
We can, however, talk about linearly-independent functions: namely, functions with vanishing Wronskian.

It's when the Wronskian doesn't vanish that the two functions are linearly independent.
 
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Heirot said:
When are to functions y1 = f1(x) and y2 = f2(x) independent? It would apper never, because, we can always write x = f1-1 (y1), and therefore y2 is a function of y1. Every function is dependent of any other function. Generally, dy1/dy2 != 0 for arbitrary functions y1 and y2. Is this reasoning correct?
I have no idea what you are saying! Do y1, y2, x1, x2 just represent numbers? What, then, is the difference between saying y1= f1(x1) and just y= f1(x)? And, of course, what do you mean by "independent"? Apparently you don't mean "linear independence". Before anyone can tell you whether or not "any two functions are not independent" you will have to say what you mean by two functions being "independent"!
 

1. What does independence of two functions mean?

The independence of two functions means that the output of one function does not affect the output of the other function. This means that the two functions are not dependent on each other and can be evaluated separately.

2. How is the independence of two functions determined?

The independence of two functions can be determined by evaluating the functions separately and then comparing the results. If the output of one function does not change with different inputs of the other function, then the two functions are independent.

3. What is the importance of independence of two functions in mathematics?

The independence of two functions is important in mathematics because it allows for easier analysis and understanding of complex systems. It also allows for the use of mathematical tools such as the product rule and the chain rule, which are based on the independence of functions.

4. Can two functions be independent at some points and dependent at others?

Yes, two functions can be independent at some points and dependent at others. This means that the functions may have some inputs where their outputs are not related, but at other inputs, their outputs may be influenced by each other.

5. How does the independence of two functions relate to linear independence?

The independence of two functions is similar to linear independence in that both concepts involve the lack of dependence between two quantities. However, linear independence specifically refers to vectors in a vector space, while independence of functions applies to any two functions.

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