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I Induce EMF in DC machines

  1. Mar 27, 2016 #1
    Why voltages out of the rotating loop is constant positive and negative **Why nOT varying like sinusoidal **.

    Like it has a wave form of O to 2*vBL and then it maintain its value there for some time before failing to zero and changing direction. I have attach the image file from my book Electrical machines Stephen J Chapman. mHaJW.jpg
     
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  3. Mar 27, 2016 #2

    Hesch

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    I suggest that it is because it's a BLDC-motor with trapezoidal commutation ( instead of sinusoidal commutation ).
    It's quite normal to design BLDC-motors in this way, because it is easier to control such motors. Sinus look-up tables are not needed.
    The shape of the induced voltage is made by adapting the shape of the poles and by arranging the windings of the coils.

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    BLDC-motors were invented many years ago, when motors were controlled by an Intel 8085 processor.
    Today much more powerful processors can easily handle synchronous motors with sinusoidal commutation, and with much higher efficiency.
     
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  4. Mar 27, 2016 #3
    I think a key piece of information to keep in mind in relation to the signal in the figure is the statement in the last paragraph in the figure itself: "which clearly relates the behavior of the single loop to the behavior of larger, real dc marchines". In other words, if you add more loops and you offset them from each other and you connect them in series, you start getting a different signal shape.
     
  5. Mar 27, 2016 #4
    But my question is that why they do not adopt sine wave shape. If it BLDC motor then why four loop dc motor Induce EMf diagram shape is like this
     

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  6. Mar 27, 2016 #5
    In Machine the loop is continuously changing the flux so why it 2VBL peak voltage level is maintain for some interval of time then it falls to zero like a sinusoidal way.
    But what we read for generators is a sinusoidal graph which shows that the peak volatge is onyly for short time that is at at zero position.
     
  7. Mar 27, 2016 #6
    Brother Thanks for Your help but it is not BLDC motor.
     
  8. Mar 27, 2016 #7
    Hhhmmm, I think I understand your concern.

    One thing that occurs to me at this point is in regards to the model assumptions.

    It seems that the single-loop generator that produces a sinusoidal voltage wave is one where the magnetic flux lines are always horizontal as they go from the north pole to the south pole stator pieces. When this is the case, the velocity of the wire that needs to be considered for vB is the component that is perpendicular to the direction of B and because the wire is rotating in circular motion, well....get it?

    On the flip side, the model that you show above indicates that the magnetic flux lines are always perpendicular to the surface of the rotor, and, so, in this case, vB remains constant and you can assume to always take advantage of the entire tangential velocity of the wire.
     
  9. Mar 28, 2016 #8

    David Lewis

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    Back EMF deviates from a pure sine wave because 1. the magnetic field of the armature distorts the field of the permanent magnets (armature reaction), offsetting the magnetic neutral plane from the geometric neutral plane, and 2. armature inductance, throwing back emf out of phase with armature current.
     
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