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Inequality: Men vs. Women

  1. Jul 25, 2008 #1
    Men

    - Take her out to dinner.
    - Make her feel special.
    - Get job/house/car/career/etc.
    - Write poems.
    - Write/sing/play songs and instruments.
    - get special skills.
    - Stand out from the crowd.
    - Financial security.
    - And countless other things men have to do to "mate."

    In the end, sex not guaranteed.

    Women

    "I'm in the mood tonight."

    Sex guaranteed.


    Why doesn't this happen to me?:cry:

    http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/6583/et051.html
     
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  3. Jul 25, 2008 #2
    Man, I hope you dont really do what you have on that list for men.
     
  4. Jul 25, 2008 #3

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    What's wrong with that list? My boyfriend does everything on that list for me, except play an instrument (well, it's not all for me...some he'd do anyway, like the financial security part). His poems are pretty bad too, but they make me laugh, so I still enjoy it. It's all appreciated. I do the same in return for him (minus instruments and bad poems). It's the list for women that's a bit pathetic.
     
  5. Jul 25, 2008 #4
    It sounds BS : only happens in romantic movies ... :approve:
     
  6. Jul 25, 2008 #5

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    Do you do all these things...but only to increase the chance that you'll have sex?
     
  7. Jul 25, 2008 #6
    My husband does most of the things on the list, but I do those things for him too.
    Make him dinner, and breakfast and lunch
    Make him feel special
    Work, contribute to our income{40+ hrs a week}
    Special skills, yea I can use a hammer drill, a ban saw and most tools.
    Stand out in a crowd, and prepare food and entertainment for the crowd
    Wash dishes, scrub toilets,clean floors, make beds, change the oil in the cars, take care of pets, make appointments, food shopping, house hold shopping, tend the garden, laundry, doctor wounds and administer medications ...

    In the end, sex not guaranteed.
     
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  8. Jul 25, 2008 #7

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    We should go back to the olden days when one could buy a wife, the only down side to that was if you did not get on she would have her kin folk carve you up for shark bait,
    still that is a better fate than being nagged to death.
     
  9. Jul 25, 2008 #8

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    Lame thread! My wife and I complement each other very well without that lop-sided crap posed by the OP. I have a medical disability, so while I tend our vegetable garden, she is pulling in a paycheck and keeping us in medical insurance. In the meantime, I'm the one making pickles, preserves, salsas, etc and canning and freezing produce to keep us in food for the next year. I pick wild berries, fiddleheads, apples, etc, clean and process and freeze them, and we have two large chest freezers jam-packed with food for future use. Yep! Lame.
     
  10. Jul 25, 2008 #9

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    Hmmmm, the last guy I dated just said "my name is.... google me". After 3 hours of reading about him, I was putty in his hands.
     
  11. Jul 25, 2008 #10

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    That list pretty much jives with some advice 2 friends of mine gave me years ago. A man has to go to a lot of trouble to get a woman to like him, because he has to first convince her he's not some kind of weirdo or pervert.

    After hearing that advice, relationships became a lot easier for me.
     
  12. Jul 25, 2008 #11
    At one moment, women want to be equal to men and at other, they just want men to do everything for them ... :smile:

    I would never do any of romantic thing, and wouldn't try to prove other things even if I am working hard to get them.
     
  13. Jul 25, 2008 #12
    I have done many of those things and more. I just realized how much garbage I have done and been through just for the sake of a relationship. Even worse, I came to the conclusion that marriage is a huge waste of time and energy, at least for me. And worst of all, when one is 25yrs old and haven't had sex in ages one becomes irrational and angry.:mad:

    What really annoys me is that women know all this and many use it as a weapon. When can we replace them?


    ~J
     
  14. Jul 26, 2008 #13

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    My real name is George Bush. Google me.
     
  16. Jul 26, 2008 #15
    I'll rewrite the list with exactly whats wrong with it, item for item.

    Men

    - Take her out to dinner.

    Yes thats fine, and she can pay for her own dinner. If this is implying to buy her dinner then the man is being used. I'm typing this after coming from a bar so its 4:05 am right now. I was talking to this blonde girl (EEEK BLONDE GIRL AHHHH!!), and she was telling me about this other bar that has cheap drinks on a certain day. I interrupted her and said so what, your a girl. She said nooooooo, its not just for girls that night, its cheap drinks for everyone. I stopped her again and said, no thats not what I meant. You're a girl, you should never pay for drinks. You're supposed to go up to a guy standing at the bar, run your hand through your hair and say hi your cute. Then he'll offer to buy you a drink. After you get your drink you look behind him and say 'oh, theres my friends I gotta run!' and walk away with your free drink. Well, she told me she was going to the bathroom. She came back 15 mins later and said, 'want a sip of my drink, its courtesy of the US army!' So not only did this poor sucker buy her a drink, she brought it back and is sharing it with me. Moral of the story, girls use guys to get free stuff all the time. Wise up and make her pay for her own meals, guys.

    - Make her feel special.

    Careful, dont confuse 'make her feel special' with obsessing over her. I have lots of girls tell me about boyfriends who are not confident and would want their attention 24-7. Know your limits.

    - Get job/house/car/career/etc.

    I tell every girl I meet at a bar that I drive a trash truck. Its none of their damn business how much money I make, how big my house is, or what kind of car I drive. If you need these things, you probably violated the first thing on this list by trying to buy her. This is a MAJOR NO NO.

    - Write poems.

    Roses are read, violets are blue. This is really lame, and so are you. If your going to do this, I hope you really know a lot about poetry to make something thats actually nice. Or just copy something down that you read that was nice. But its very high-schoolish, in my opinon. If your good at poetry then by all means write away! I wouldnt try it because my poem would end up being an equation that I thought was nice....and she'd be like ......are you serious?............

    - Write/sing/play songs and instruments.

    Uh, no. Absolutely not.

    - get special skills.

    I got skillz to pay da billz, Holla backkkkkkk yalll. Again, no.

    - Stand out from the crowd.

    Well, I would not write it that way. I would instead say, be interesting. No one wants to hang around boring people. (Well, maybe some people do...that's kinda sad and pathetic) Most guys talk about lame stuff girls dont want to hear. Bla bla bla sports, bla bla bla cars, bla bla bla my buddies did x,y,z. Or if its at a bar, "hi, whats your name.......so what do you do..........im really boring and I wont go away and I'll sit here and ask you lame questions all night long. Hey where are you going? I'll just wait here incase you get back ........" Ouch, have some personality.

    - Financial security.

    No, im not a sugar daddy.

    - And countless other things men have to do to "mate."

    Actually, less is more. Just grab her tushy and give it a firm squeeze so she jumps, -she'll love it I promise. (But please, dont just walk up to a girl and do this. Thats called sexual assult).

    In the end, sex not guaranteed.

    It should be if you play your cards right. But then again, I dont even like kissing a girl I dont know or just met, unless shes really really really hot. I dont know where her mouth has been. But if were talking a relationship, you should be able to keep her happy by showing her effection in ways that DOES NOT require spending money. Spend time with her, spend time getting to know her and listening to what she has to say. Do activities with her that she enjoys that are new to you so its something different for you at the same time. Thats the fun of meeting people, sharing new experiences you probably would not have known or thought of on your daily routine. That's the variety that makes life interesting.

    Chomp chomp chomp, how's your food? Chomp chomp chomp.............it's all right. Chomp chomp chomp (thinking, I hope this is going well!) .......chomp chomp. Here's the bill sir, $69.00! Chomp chomp......gulp...........ahhhh dammit.

    I think I'll pass on that dinner......

    I would change the list for women to the following though:

    Women

    Have something interesting about yourself. A hobby, a passion, anything. Art, science, literally. Just like SOMETHING so you dont look to a realtionship as a means to passing your boredom. A lot of people look for relationships as simply something to do, both men and women.

    Take care of your body. Exercise, eat well, get enough sleep. Dont smoke or do drugs. Look your best and have a positive outlook on life in the things you do (This list is also for men).

    Thats enough for now, im sure I'll get 10x pages of people arguing with me now...:frown:
     
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  17. Jul 26, 2008 #16
    Speaking on behalf of just myself, as a married man I honestly don't care what a woman brings to the table as long as there's good sex involved. I'm 25. I've been married for 5 years (we've been together for a little over 10yrs). I've been through all the motions of cuddling, arguing, spending time together, and all that garbage couples do. I'm tired of it. I don't care if my wife cooks, cleans, does laundry, or whatever for me since I can do all that myself. At this point in my life I want the sex, nothing more.

    Even married, I gotta jump through hoops just to make her happy like the time I had to take a bus at 2am to go 5miles away to get her some food she wanted. I'll admit I did that out of love but now that I think about it, it wasn't worth it.

    I will never ever again spend money or time on any woman. I'm jaded. I'm so jaded, my standards have been lowered significantly. I'll go out with anything. I've played my cards correctly many times, I know this, but I still end up crashing and burning because men and women play different games with the same cards.

    What the hell happened to the myth of "married men get it easily!"


    ~J
     
  18. Jul 26, 2008 #17

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    Not so good at back rubs, evidently.

    "Achtung! Was ist das? Raus! Raus!"
     
  19. Jul 26, 2008 #18
    Don't anybody show that list to my wife or I'm a dead man.
     
  20. Jul 26, 2008 #19
    LOL. This thread is such a blast. I don't really know where to begin, but Cyrus is on to something.

    If women want equal treatment, they shouldn't play on the stereotypes and whatnot. They should pay for their own meals, drinks, things etc. Occasional presents is great stuff, but they should only get them on anniversaries and birthdays.

    Then another thing is, it depends on what kind of girls you like and are hitting on. If you find out everything about the "subculture" of those girls you can corner the market if you also are rather fit and talkative. A sense of style and class is never a bad thing in this kind of activity.

    And for a final word, will sleeping with 5 more random chicks give you anything? Maybe a "morale" and confidence boost. But those things are hollow. Search for inner strength instead of getting your confidence from someone else. The only other thing that is a perk is sexual experience, so when you meet the woman of yours dreams, you will make her very VERY satisfied whenever you please. :)
     
  21. Jul 26, 2008 #20

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    :rofl:

    Did you read hypatia's and my replies here? None of that indicated having men do everything for us. In fact, if my boyfriend tried to do everything for me, he'd probably find the imprint of the bottom of my shoe on delicate parts of his anatomy. That doesn't mean that people can't do nice things for each other.

    Of course, as others pointed out, if you're ONLY doing it to get sex, and not as part of a give-and-take relationship, then yeah, you get what you deserve, which is likely no sex. :biggrin: (I think that may be the way Cyrus is interpreting the list, as coming from the perspective of someone chasing after a date, not in the context of an existing relationship...I didn't make that assumption.) When just going out on first dates (or any of the first few dates), sure, I don't think it's right for men to pay for everything, and I don't let them. But, with a boyfriend, it's not at all the same situation. He can treat me to dinner if he wants, because he also doesn't object when I treat him. He has noticed that when I take him out to dinner, the waitperson inevitably hands him the check though. :grumpy: I've finally trained him to hand it over without a fuss when I've told him I'm treating (yeah, he always tried to pay for everything...I had to break him of that habit).
     
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