Inertia & Accelerated Expansion: How Does Machian Explanations Fit In?

In summary, the conversation revolves around the compatibility of Machian interpretations of inertia with the ever-expanding universe, and whether empirical data has completely negated Mach's principle as interpreted by Einstein. Some theories predict a finite expansion, while Einstein's theory of relativity suggests that inertia depends on mutual actions between masses and is only applicable to a bounded universe. However, other theories such as linear and rotational frame-dragging effects in GR and a strong Machian explanation of inertia require alternative theories outside the scope of general relativity.
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I understand that some old Machian interpretations of inertia require a closed universe. Now that it has been confirmed that the universe is expanding forever and is not closed, how does Machian explanations of inertia fit in with this?
 
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Why exactly should the universe be closed for 'some Machian interpretations'? Could you give some references? :)
 
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Inertia is irrelevant. Nothing actually moves with respect to its own inertial reference frame during expansion irrespective of whether the universe is open or closed.
 
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e2m2a said:
...Now that it has been confirmed that the universe is expanding forever and is not closed, how does Machian explanations of inertia fit in with this?...
Still plenty of theories predicting finite expansion eg https://arxiv.org/abs/1409.7073

Could you give some references? :)
 
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In Einstein's Meaning of Relativity , he stated: "1. From the standpoint of the theory of relativity, the condition for a closed surface is very much simpler than the corresponding boudary condition at infinity of the quasi-Euclidean structure of the universe.

2. The idea that Mach expressed, that inertia depends upon the mutual action of bodies, is contained, to a first approximation, in the equations of the theory of relativity; it follows from these equations that inertia depends, at least in part, upon mutual actions between masses. As it is an unsatisfactory assumption to make that inertia depends in part upon mutual actions, and in part upon an independent property of space, Mach's idea gains in probability. But this idea of Mach's corresponds only to a finite universe, bounded in space, and not to a quasi-Euclidean, infinite universe. From the standpoint of epistemology it is more satisfying to have the mechanical properties of space completely determined by matter, and this is the case only in a space-bounded universe..."

Again, my question is, based on the empirical astronomical data that the universe is expanding forever at an accelerated rate, does this completely negate Mach's principle as Einstein interpreted it?
 
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Kenneth Nordtvedt has pointed out that linear frame-dragging effects in GR appear to be consistent with a Machian explanation of inertia, and (as can be found for example in MTW) rotational frame-dragging effects are also apparently consistent with a "sum for inertia" concept. However, there is no exact Machian explanation of inertia in GR and it seems unlikely that one can be found because it would apparently require G to vary according to the distribution of nearby masses. (Personally I think it is very weird that GR gets so close but can't close the gap). In both cases, the effect relates to the distribution of masses in the observable universe only.

If you want a strong Machian explanation of inertia, you are outside the scope of General Relativity, so what you get depends on what alternative theory you use. Unless you've got peer-reviewed references, that's probably outside the scope of Physics Forums.
 
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1. What is inertia and how does it relate to accelerated expansion?

Inertia is the tendency of an object to resist changes in its state of motion. In the context of accelerated expansion, inertia plays a role in the expansion of the universe as objects with more mass have a greater resistance to acceleration. This resistance to acceleration is what leads to the observed accelerated expansion of the universe.

2. How does Machian explanation fit into our understanding of inertia and accelerated expansion?

Machian explanation is a concept that suggests that the inertia of an object is determined by the distribution of matter in the universe. In the context of accelerated expansion, this means that the inertia of an object is influenced by the mass and distribution of matter in the universe, which ultimately affects the rate of expansion.

3. Can Machian explanation fully explain the phenomenon of accelerated expansion?

While Machian explanation offers a compelling explanation for the role of inertia in accelerated expansion, it cannot fully explain the phenomenon on its own. Other factors, such as dark energy and dark matter, also play a significant role in the observed accelerated expansion of the universe.

4. How does the concept of inertia and accelerated expansion impact our understanding of gravity?

The concept of inertia and accelerated expansion has led to a deeper understanding of gravity and its effects on the universe. It has helped scientists to better understand the role of dark energy and dark matter in the expansion of the universe, and how these factors interact with gravity to shape the evolution of the cosmos.

5. What are some potential implications of Machian explanation for our understanding of the universe?

Machian explanation has the potential to significantly impact our understanding of the universe and its evolution. It could potentially provide a more complete explanation for the observed accelerated expansion and could aid in the development of new theories and models of the universe. However, further research and evidence are needed to fully understand and validate the role of Machian explanation in our understanding of the cosmos.

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