Proof That An Infinite Dimensional Universe May Not Exist

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of higher dimensions and how it relates to the shape of the universe. It is mentioned that the surface area of a hypersphere in higher dimensions diverges to 0, suggesting that an infinite dimensional universe may not exist. The topic of other hyper-shapes and their surface area is also briefly discussed. Finally, the conversation ends with a mention of a rotating 4D Torus and the limitations of mathematics in proving concepts in physics.
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here is an interesting link at mathworld that describes a hypersphere and the formula for determining the surface area of a sphere in higher dimensions. If you look at the graph, the maximum area is in 7th dimension and diverges to 0 for higher dimensions.

Although some people speculate the universe might have infinite dimensions, could this be proof that an infinite dimensional universe may not exist.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hypersphere.html
 
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No, just that a spherical universe with infinite dimensions has surface area 0 (probably because it wouldn't have a surface).

That's interesting, though. Does a surface area max occur with other hyper-shapes, as n approaches infinity?
 
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Apart from the hyper-sphere and the hyper-cube (area = 2n, which ofcourse diverges for n going to infinity) I think there are not really a lot of shapes that can be intuitively generalised to an arbitrary number of dimensions.
 
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What about the hypertorus?

Mathworld outputs no results and Google isn't much help either. That's too bad... isn't it supposed to be one of the leadings candidates for the shape of the universe?

I know Kaku mentions the hypertorus in "Hyperspace," but I'm not sure he mentioned anything about the surface area in relation to n.

Oh, for those using Mac OS X, I found a http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20105 of a rotating 4D Torus. Trippy!
 
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Mathematics cannot prove anything about physics- it can only prove statements about particular models for physics- perhaps that a particular model is not valid.
 

1. What is an infinite dimensional universe?

An infinite dimensional universe is the concept that there are an infinite number of dimensions or spatial directions in our universe.

2. How do scientists study the possibility of an infinite dimensional universe?

Scientists study the possibility of an infinite dimensional universe through mathematical models and theories, as well as observations and experiments in fields such as quantum mechanics and cosmology.

3. What evidence supports the existence of an infinite dimensional universe?

There is currently no direct evidence to support the existence of an infinite dimensional universe. Some theories, such as string theory, suggest the possibility of extra dimensions, but these have not been proven.

4. What evidence suggests that an infinite dimensional universe may not exist?

One major argument against the existence of an infinite dimensional universe is the lack of evidence for such dimensions in our observable universe. Additionally, some theories, such as loop quantum gravity, propose a finite number of dimensions.

5. What implications would the non-existence of an infinite dimensional universe have on our understanding of the universe?

If an infinite dimensional universe does not exist, it would require a re-evaluation of many current theories and models in physics. It could also lead to a better understanding of the fundamental laws and structure of our universe.

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