Inifinite potential barrier problem

In summary: Hi mmwave!The average of E1 + E2 is interesting. The value <Q> is the mean value I would get from a whole bunch of identically prepared systems if I measured the observable Q. That is not necessarily the same thing I would get if I measure Q of a single system repeatedly over time. In the case of <H> = E they are the same?
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(modified this to reflect a better understanding)

Stationary solutions to the wave equation mean that if I calculate <x> I will get a value independent of time. For a potential defined as V(x) =0 from x = 0 to a and infinite outside that range of x, the lowest energy solution is Psi(x,0) = A sin (pi x / a). I can do the
math and show that <x> = a/2 for this solution.

Now classically we know that a particle of energy greater than 0 will oscillate between the two boundaries. So any physical solution to PSI(x,t) must give such a solution. I am trying to show this for the simple case of PSI(x,t) = A sin(pi x/a) exp(-iwt) + Asin(2pi x/a)exp(-i2wt). I have 2 questions.

1. I am correct in expecting that |PSI(x,t)|^2 is still a stationary value? My book suggests it is time varying but I don't believe it.

2. When I form <x> for this wave function, I multiply by its complex conjugate and do the integral. The 'crossterms' have the time dependence and I get <x> = a * (0.5 - 0.18 * cos (3wt) ). This was
not exactly what I expected but when I graphed |PSI(x,0)|^2 it seems
reasonable. <x> = 0.32 a at t =0, and peak of |PSI(x,0)|^2 is 0.30.

3. When I calc. <H> = 5/2 * pi * pi * hbar *hbar / (2ma2

When I add up E1 + E2 for the eigenstates i get twice the value I calculated above. That seems strange to me but I can't find any faults in the math. Does anyone know if <H> is *not* supposed to equal E1 + E2?
 
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Hi mmwave!

Here are the answers:

1. The new state is not stationary. The book is right. Actually, any time-dependent state can be written as a sum of stationary states.

2. Your result confirms my answer to question 1.

3. <H> is the average energy. Average is (E1+E2)/2, not E1 + E2.

:smile:
 
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Thanks for the reply. I am not sure I agree that <x> being time varying supports the argument that |Psi|^2 is time varying. That extra factor of x complicates the integral a lot. I will write out the |Psi(x,t)|^2 integral again and see what I get now that I've had some more sleep.

The average of E1 + E2 is interesting. The value <Q> is the mean value I would get from a whole bunch of identically prepared systems if I measured the observable Q. That is not necessarily the same thing I would get if I measure Q of a single system repeatedly over time. In the case of <H> = E they are the same?
 
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After you measure the energy of the system once, it's state becomes the eigenstate of energy corresponding to the value you obtained. If you measure it again and again you will always get the same value.
 

1. What is the Infinite Potential Barrier Problem?

The Infinite Potential Barrier Problem is a theoretical problem in quantum mechanics that involves determining the behavior of a particle in a one-dimensional box with an infinitely high potential barrier at its boundaries.

2. What is the significance of the Infinite Potential Barrier Problem?

The Infinite Potential Barrier Problem is used as a model to understand the behavior of particles in potential wells and barriers. It also helps in understanding the concept of wave-particle duality and the quantization of energy levels.

3. What is the solution to the Infinite Potential Barrier Problem?

The solution to the Infinite Potential Barrier Problem involves solving the Schrödinger equation for the particle in the one-dimensional box with the boundary conditions of an infinitely high potential at the boundaries. This results in a series of quantized energy levels for the particle.

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5. What are the limitations of the Infinite Potential Barrier Problem?

The Infinite Potential Barrier Problem is a simplified model and does not accurately represent all physical systems. It does not take into account factors such as the particle's spin and interactions with other particles. It also assumes an infinitely high potential, which is not physically possible.

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