Integral Suppose f(x)=int(1/t.dt)

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In summary, the conversation is discussing how to show that for any x, y > 0, the function f(x) = int(1/t.dt) where the upper limit is x, the lower limit is 1, and x > 0, satisfies the equation f(x) + f(y) = f(xy). This is done by using a substitution s = xt and showing that f(1/x) = -f(x) and f(xy) = f(x) + f(y). Ultimately, this function is a standard definition of the natural logarithm.
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Hello everyone, this one might seem easy to you but it's driving me insane.

Q) Suppose f(x)=int(1/t.dt)
where the upper limit=x, lower limit=1 ; for x>0.

Without evaluating the integral show that
for any x,y>0, f(x)+f(y)=f(xy).
where you may consider a substitution s=xt in the left-hand side.

Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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I don't know what you mean by "consider the substitution," but the best I can do anyway is show that the most they differ by is a constant. I at first assumed you didn't want me to differentiate either so I tried separating the integrals (for instance, instead of from 1 to y, I tried 1 to x plus x to y) but I'm not sure that helped.
If you differentiate f(x)+f(y)=f(xy)
you get
1/x*x' + 1/y*y'=1/(xy)(x'y+y'x)=1/x*x'+1/y*y'
where x' and y' are the derivatives of x and y with respect to t.
So since the derivatives are equal, they can only differ by a constant.
To show that C=0, you could pick some values of x and y. I wanted to stay somewhat general, so I picked x=y. It boils down to showing that
2*S(1/t)dt=S(1/t)dt
if the limits on the left are 1 and x
and on the right 1 and x2
 
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int(1,x)dt/t=int(y,xy)ds/s, where s=yt.
However, s is dummy. Therefore
int(1,x)dt/t + int(1,y)dt/t = int(1,xy)dt/t
 
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mathman, I'd be interested in seeing a little more work (so I can understand what you did), if you don't mind.
 
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You will FIRST need to show that f(1/x)= -f(x):
f(1/x)= int (t=1 to 1/x) 1/t dt.

Let u= xt so that t= u/x. Then dt= du/x and 1/t= x/u so that
(1/t) dt= (x/u)du/x= (1/u) du. When t= 1, u= x and when t= 1/x,
u= x(1/x)= 1. The integral becomes int(from u= x to u= 1)(1/u)du
which is -int (from u=1 to u= x)(1/u)du= -f(x).

Now, f(xy)= int (t=1 to xy) 1/t dt.

Let u= t/x so that t= xu. Then dt= xdu and 1/t= 1/(xu) so that
(1/t)dt= (1/(xu))(xdu)= (1/u)du. When t= 1, u= 1/x and when t= xy,
u= y so the integral becomes int (from u= 1/x to y)(1/u)du
= int (from u= 1/x to 1)(1/u)du+ int (from u= 1 to y) (1/u)du
= -int (from u= 1 to 1/x)(1/u)du+ int (from u= 1 to y) (1/u)du
= -(-f(x))+ f(y)= f(x) + f(y).

f(x)= int(from t=1 to t= x)(1/t)dt is actually a fairly standard definition of ln(x).
 
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So essentially the idea is to make a substitution for t that will preserve the integrand but change the limits. Very clever.
 

1. What is the meaning of f(x) in the integral f(x) = int(1/t.dt)?

In this integral, f(x) represents the function being integrated. In other words, it is the output or dependent variable of the integral.

2. What does the notation "int" mean in the integral f(x) = int(1/t.dt)?

The notation "int" stands for integral, which is a mathematical operation that calculates the area under a curve or the accumulation of a function over a certain interval.

3. How is the integral f(x) = int(1/t.dt) evaluated?

The integral can be evaluated using various methods such as the substitution method, integration by parts, or using a table of integrals. The specific method used will depend on the complexity of the function being integrated.

4. What is the significance of the 1/t term in the integral f(x) = int(1/t.dt)?

The 1/t term represents the function being integrated, which in this case is a rational function. It is important to note that the integral of 1/t is ln(t) + C, where C is a constant of integration.

5. Can the integral f(x) = int(1/t.dt) be solved for all values of x?

As with any integral, the limits of integration must be specified in order to solve the integral for a specific value of x. Without limits, the integral is considered an indefinite integral and can only be evaluated as an antiderivative.

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