Can dx/dy always be used for integration and derivation on a circle?

In summary, the conversation discusses the validity of the equation dx/dy = x/y and its applicability in various situations, such as in a circle. It is concluded that the equation is generally not true and counter-examples can easily be found. The graph below illustrates this concept.
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Homework Statement


is dx/dy= x/y
if yes can i use it always

Homework Equations


for example in a circle
dA/dtheta=A/360

The Attempt at a Solution


if its right sometimes what are the conditions of using it
 
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Generally, no it is not. (You can integrate the expression to find the conditions under which it is true.)
 
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mjc123 said:
Generally, no it is not.
And it is quite easy to find counter-examples. For example, let ##y = x^2##. Then ##dy/dx = 2x \neq y/x = x##.
 
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Orodruin said:
And it is quite easy to find counter-examples. For example, let ##y = x^2##. Then ##dy/dx = 2x \neq y/x = x##.
ok thank you
 
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See the graph below for an illustration. The secant is the line through the origin that cuts the curve at (x,y); its slope is y/x. The tangent is the line that touches the curve at (x,y); its slope is dy/dx, the instantaneous slope of the curve at (x,y), or the rate of change of y with x at that point.

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1. What is the difference between integration and derivation?

Integration and derivation are two mathematical operations that are essentially inverse of each other. Integration is the process of finding the area under a curve, while derivation is the process of finding the slope of a curve at a given point.

2. Why are integration and derivation important in science?

Integration and derivation are important tools in science because they allow us to analyze and understand complex phenomena by breaking them down into simpler components. They are used extensively in physics, engineering, and many other fields to solve problems and make predictions.

3. What is the fundamental theorem of calculus?

The fundamental theorem of calculus is a fundamental concept in integration and derivation. It states that integration and derivation are inverse operations, meaning that the integral of a function is the derivative of its antiderivative. In other words, if we integrate a function and then take the derivative of the resulting function, we will get back the original function.

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5. What are some common techniques for integration and derivation?

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