Integrate (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx - Homework Solution

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Then one can be integrated straight away and the other can be done by the substitution again.No integration by parts is needed with the substitution. You just multiply it out to get two terms of the form u^n. Then one can be integrated straight away and the other can be done by the substitution again.In summary, the conversation discusses the integration of (x^3)sqrt(x^2+8) dx using a trigonometric substitution. The correct solution involves substituting x=2sqrt(2)tan(t) and multiplying by a constant factor of 16sqrt(2)tan^3(t) sqrt(8tan^2(t)+8) (2sqrt(2)sec^2(t)). One participant suggests using integration
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Homework Statement



integrate (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



let x = 2sqrt(2)tan(t) ==> dx= 2sqrt(2)sec^2(t) dt

=int (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx
=int (16sqrt(2)tan^3(t)) sqrt(8tan^2(t) + 8) (2sqrt(2)sec^2(t)) dt
=int (32 sqrt(2)) (tan^3(t)) sec^3(t) dt

my problem is till this point i compared it with the the prof. working
and he had this instead : int (16sqrt(2)tan^3(t))(2sqrt(2)sec(t)) dt

help~
 
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mk200789 said:

Homework Statement



integrate (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



let x = 2sqrt(2)tan(t) ==> dx= 2sqrt(2)sec^2(t) dt

=int (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx
=int (16sqrt(2)tan^3(t)) sqrt(8tan^2(t) + 8) (2sqrt(2)sec^2(t)) dt
=int (32 sqrt(2)) (tan^3(t)) sec^3(t) dt

my problem is till this point i compared it with the the prof. working
and he had this instead : int (16sqrt(2)tan^3(t))(2sqrt(2)sec(t)) dt
Your work is fine. It looks like your professor didn't substitute for dt.
 
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I didn't really take a look at your solution

But in order to solve the integral ,, just substitute >>> u = 8 + x^2

it's straight forward ;)
 
  • #4
I didn't really take a look at your solution

But in order to solve the integral ,, just substitute >>> u = 8 + x^2

it's straight forward ;)

It may be straightforward but this substitution is pretty useless.

Integration by parts is the way to go here and you only have to do it once.
 
  • #5
Cyosis said:
It may be straightforward but this substitution is pretty useless.

Integration by parts is the way to go here and you only have to do it once.

The solution comes out almost straight away with the substitution actually.
 
  • #6
The solution comes out almost straight away with the substitution actually.

While useless may have been a bit strong I still feel you don't gain much by doing that substitution. You will have to do integration by parts after wards, which you may as well do right away.
 
  • #7
Gib Z said:
The solution comes out almost straight away with the substitution actually.

How exactly? du does not equal x^3, it equals 2x. Rather useless.
 
  • #8
Char.Limit said:
How exactly? du does not equal x^3, it equals 2x. Rather useless.

The idea is that x^2=u-8 and we can write x^3 as x^2*x. You can then combine them. However in my eyes that just sends you back to the original problem. We may be going a bit off topic here.
 
  • #9
SO...my working so far is correct? or the prof's correct?:|
 
  • #10
try the substitution

[tex]
t = \sqrt{x^{2} + 8}
[/tex]
 
  • #11
mk200789 said:
SO...my working so far is correct? or the prof's correct?:|

You are correct. However unless the exercise asks you to specifically use a trigonometric substitution you should really use integration by parts.
 
  • #12
thanks. yeh i was told to use trig sub:)
 
  • #13
I just noticed that you made a minor mistake regarding the constant factors.

=int (16sqrt(2)tan^3(t)) sqrt(8tan^2(t) + 8) (2sqrt(2)sec^2(t)) dt

This is correct.

=int (32 sqrt(2)) (tan^3(t)) sec^3(t) dt

Here you made a mistake when it comes to multiplying the constant roots.
 
  • #14
Cyosis said:
While useless may have been a bit strong I still feel you don't gain much by doing that substitution. You will have to do integration by parts after wards, which you may as well do right away.
No integration by parts is needed with the substitution. You just multiply it out to get two terms of the form u^n.
 

1. What is the purpose of integrating (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx?

The purpose of integrating (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx is to find the area under the curve of the given function. Integration is a mathematical process used in calculus to find the total accumulation of a quantity over a given interval.

2. How do you solve the integral of (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8) dx?

To solve this integral, we can use the substitution method. Let u = x^2 + 8, then du = 2x dx. Substituting this into the integral, we get 1/2 * ∫ u^(3/2) du, which can be easily evaluated as 1/2 * (2/5)u^(5/2) + C. Substituting back for u, we get the final solution of 1/5 * (x^2 + 8)^(5/2) + C.

3. What is the domain of the function (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8)?

The domain of this function is all real numbers, as there are no restrictions on the values that x can take.

4. Is there a shortcut method to solve this integral?

Yes, there is a shortcut method known as the power rule for integration. In this case, we can use the power rule by adding 1 to the power of x and dividing the coefficient by the new power. The integral then becomes ((x^3)/4) * (x^2 + 8)^(3/2) + C.

5. How do I check if my solution to this integral is correct?

You can check your solution by taking the derivative of your answer. If the derivative is equal to the original function, then your solution is correct. In this case, the derivative of 1/5 * (x^2 + 8)^(5/2) + C is indeed equal to (x^3)sqrt(x^2 + 8).

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