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Integration question

  1. May 12, 2006 #1
    I'm trying to follow a derivation in a book on marine acoustics for finding the amplitude along a sound ray, as a function of the arc length, s, of the ray.

    The book gives the following equation:

    2\frac{dA_0}{ds}+ \left[ \frac{c}{J}\frac{d}{ds}\left(\frac{J}{c}\right) \right]A_0 = 0

    The book then says that by integrating the above equation, we get:

    A_0(s)= A_0(0)\left| \frac{c(s)J(0)}{c(0)J(s)} \right|^{1/2}

    The book doesn't give any intermediate steps, and I'm not really sure how the integration is actually done. I gather that the limits are from 0 to s, but I don't know how you deal with something like this where J, c and A_0 all seem to depend on s.

    In these equations, c is the sound speed at a given arc length s along the ray, and J is the Jacobian determinant, given as:

    J = r\left[\frac{dr}{ds}\frac{dz}{d\theta} - \frac{dz}{ds}\frac{dr}{d\theta}\right]

    or alternatively:

    J = r\left[\left(\frac{dz}{d\theta}\right)^2 + \left(\frac{dr}{d\theta}\right)^2\right]^{1/2}

    So...can anyone explain to me the steps involved in going from the first equation to the second? Any help would be appreciated.
    Last edited: May 12, 2006
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  3. May 12, 2006 #2


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    You can get it in the form...


    where [tex]C(s)=1/c(s)[/tex]
  4. May 12, 2006 #3


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    As a follow up to J77's excellent hint, think of chain rule (this is like reversing chain rule).
  5. May 12, 2006 #4
    Aah, thanks guys! I see what's happening now.
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