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Internet Explorer 7 ?

  1. Jan 30, 2007 #1
    Internet Explorer 7 ???

    lol..any one notice that they're trying to get it to look like fire fox =]

    gotta love fire fox!
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  3. Feb 10, 2007 #2
    ff w/ no addons is still better than IE7, because fewer viruses are made for it. with the right addons, like im at now, I cant stand IE.
  4. Feb 10, 2007 #3


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    It would have been nicer if they had copied FireFox enough to offer native support of XUL.
  5. Feb 11, 2007 #4
    I find both IE6 and IE7 to be of immense value. It is used by the majority of the worlds population who owns a computer, so web design needs to take the versions of that browser into account nonetheless.
  6. Feb 11, 2007 #5
    true, I test html in IE and FF. but in terms of features it sucks.
  7. Feb 12, 2007 #6
    Web design needs to follow RFC's not Microsoft.
  8. Feb 12, 2007 #7
    Nevertheless, there is a large portion of humans that do use IE6/IE7 so in order to maximize the level of good exposure, one needs to make the design cross browser, even if IE5/IE7 is a bad browser and doesn't understand correct code. If your website looks like crap in IE6/IE7 you are bound to loose visitors and clients.

    Actually, web design should following W3C standards, not any independent company. After all, they are the ones that made the Internet.

  9. Feb 12, 2007 #8
    That is what I said, you need to follow RFC's not Microsoft. You do know what an RFC is right?

    Well maybe they help define the application layer, but not the network layer.
  10. Feb 12, 2007 #9
    I'm not exactly sure how much you know about the history of the Internet, but it was officially created by Tim Berners-Lee back in '89, when we was working at CERN. Since then, he founded the W3C and that organization is the leading organization in the world in this matter. Anyone with web design experience should know that.

    RFC isn't really the issue here.
  11. Feb 12, 2007 #10
    At the Application Layer. Not the Network layer :rolleyes:

    And yes RFC's are absolutely the issue here, why do you think they are not?

    It seems you dont know what an RFC is, here is an example:


    This is what the internet is built on, Requests for Comment!
  12. Feb 12, 2007 #11
    As I said, that is highly irrelevant for the discussion. I'll just repost the parts of my earlier post, which you have not replied to.

    Web design should follow W3C standards, no matter what, which is possible when at the same time making your design as cross browser as possible.
  13. Feb 12, 2007 #12
    Highly irrelevant to the discussion? You have even said:

    Considering that application layer standard is an RFC, it seems you are contradicting yourself. So if it is so irrelevant why are you stating that one should follow rfc's then?

    Regardless I think your methodology for coding is not normal, you dont bend to the will of a company you follow the Open Standards, as I have stated 3 times, and you have stated once.

    IE7 is rfc compliant as best as M$ can do..

    As for this, I work for a teleco, I know how the internet works, and I can guarantee I know it in more technical depth than anyone on this board (at layer 4 and below; OSI) :wink:

    *ducks and waits for the onslaught*
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2007
  14. Feb 12, 2007 #13


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    This seems like a fruitless point. It's a chicken and egg situation whether TCP/IP or HTML drove the internet.
  15. Feb 13, 2007 #14
    no it is not, the application layer is defined differently than the network layer, by differnt bodies, in a different way. An rfc pertaning to the structure of http is nothing to do with an rfc describing ipsec for example. w3.org have nada/nothing/zip to do with how BGP works for another example.

    I am not asserting nor am i saying anything about who *ïnvented* the internet. I am talking about how internet protocols work today, and they are all described via open standards. Some start of life, like mpls, being devoped by 1 company, cisco in this case. But for the protocol to become a standard it needs to be defined in an rfc, and presented to the IETF. Its the IT methodology and process of the internet!
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