Intuition of fermats principle

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of Snell's law and the use of a photo to demonstrate the path of light. The speaker also raises a question about the light ray's knowledge of different mediums and the misunderstanding of Fermat's principle. The response clarifies that the light ray does not have knowledge and is a simplification of the underlying wave propagation. The use of Fermat's principle is also explained as the path between two points that takes the least time, which are the points the light ray is aimed from and at.
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I have used the attached photo to show that light takes the path described by snells law such that the time it takes from point A to B is minimized. But conceptually there is something wrong for me in this derivation. Because why would the light ray coming in, know that there is a different medium later on? It certainly would suggest that it does in this derivation, because here we vary the length that the light travels horizontally in the first medium with the idea of minimizing its path OVERALL. Am I misunderstanding something?
 

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Because why would the light ray coming in, know that there is a different medium later on?

Of course the light ray would not know this. It does not even exist to begin with. It is a simplification of the underlying wave propagation. The light wave propagates in all directions, so you could imagine, in a way, that this is how the fastest path is "felt".
 
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Having read about fermats principle I don't really think I understand it. It says the light will take the path between two points that take the least time. But what are these two points? - the points you aim from and at with your lightray?
 

1. What is Fermat's Principle?

Fermat's Principle is a principle in optics and mechanics that states that light or a particle will always take the path of least time to travel between two points. This principle is based on the idea that nature is efficient and will always choose the quickest route.

2. How did Fermat's Principle come about?

Fermat's Principle was discovered by French mathematician and physicist Pierre de Fermat in the 17th century. He proposed the principle as a way to explain why light always follows a straight line and why objects move along the path of least resistance.

3. What is the importance of Fermat's Principle in physics?

Fermat's Principle is a fundamental principle in physics as it helps us understand the behavior of light and particles in various situations. It is used to derive the laws of reflection and refraction in optics and is also applied in the study of mechanics and fluid dynamics.

4. How is Fermat's Principle related to the concept of least action?

Fermat's Principle is closely related to the principle of least action, which states that a natural system will always take the path of least action or effort. Both principles are based on the idea of efficiency in nature and are used to explain various phenomena in physics.

5. Are there any limitations to Fermat's Principle?

While Fermat's Principle is a useful tool in understanding the behavior of light and particles, it is not a universal law and has its limitations. For example, it does not apply to all types of waves and cannot fully explain all phenomena in optics. It is also based on the assumption of perfect efficiency, which may not always hold true in real-world situations.

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