Proving the Invariance of the Spacetime Interval: Importance and Applications

In summary, the invariance of the spacetime interval is an extremely important concept that is the starting point for the derivation of the Lorentz-Einstein transformations.
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Ragnar
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How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?
 
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space time invariance

Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?
Have a look please at
Thomas Moore, 'A Traveler's Guide to Spacetime, Mc.Graw Hill,Inc. 1955\ Starting with Chapter 4
It is important among others because it is the starting point for the derivation by Einstein of the Lorentz-Einstein transformations.
I hope I gave you a good and accessible refence.
 
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Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?

Use the Lorentz transforms for x',t' in the expression of the spacetime interval [tex]ds'^2=c^2t'^2-x'^2[/tex]
The invariant(s) (there are quite a few more, like , for example [tex]E^2-(pc)^2[/tex]) are very important because they aid in solving problems where relative motion is involved.
 
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The Lorentz transformation is defined so as to keep the spacetime interval invariant. More precisely, any [itex]\Lambda[/itex] such that

[tex]\Lambda \eta \Lambda = \eta[/tex]

where [itex]\eta = \mbox{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1)[/itex] is a transformation which keeps the spacetime interval invariant.

EDIT: in component form, using Einstein summation

[tex]\eta_{a'b'} = \eta_{ab}\Lambda^a\mbox{}_{a'}\Lambda^b\mbox{}_{b'}[/tex]
 
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A previous thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=115451

It's important because it is a quantity that all observers will agree upon, in spite of their general disagreement in the component-displacements.
Its analogue in Euclidean geometry is the [square-]distance between two points.
 
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Ragnar said:
Also why is it so important?
The space-time interval serves the same role in (the geometry of) Special Relativity as the distance formula serves in Euclidean geometry.
 
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masudr said:
The Lorentz transformation is defined so as to keep the spacetime interval invariant. More precisely, any [itex]\Lambda[/itex] such that

[tex]\Lambda \eta \Lambda = \eta[/tex]

where [itex]\eta = \mbox{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1)[/itex] is a transformation which keeps the spacetime interval invariant.

EDIT: in component form, using Einstein summation

[tex]\eta_{a'b'} = \eta_{ab}\Lambda^a\mbox{}_{a'}\Lambda^b\mbox{}_{b'}[/tex]
Do you teach or only use special relativity. If you teach I would send you a story..
 
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neutrino said:
The first chapter of Spacetime Physics deals with invariant interval; the exposition is enlightening. You can download the first chapter of the first edition from Edwin Taylor's website: http://www.eftaylor.com/download.html#special_relativity

Great find. Ed's site must have been recently updated.

See the famous "Parable of the Surveyors". (I've been working on a variation and extension of this parable.)

The last sections of Chapter 1 include the rapidity discussions that have removed from the second edition.
 
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bernhard.rothenstein said:
Do you teach or only use special relativity. If you teach I would send you a story..

I learn & use only, I'm afraid.
 
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Ragnar said:
How do we prove that the spacetime interval is invariant? Also why is it so important?

Although the transforms upon which the invariance of the interval is based were developed by lorentz and Einstein - it was Minkowski that first pointed out the physics - the fact that in our universe, space and time can be unified and the unification is easy to visualize - any two events in spacetime are separated by an interval which has the same spacetime magnitude in every possible uniformly moving frame which can be imagined. Almost all problems in SR can be quickly solved by using this fundamental concept.
 
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What is the concept of invariance of the interval?

Invariance of the interval is a fundamental concept in physics that states the distance between two events in space-time remains unchanged regardless of the observer's frame of reference.

Why is invariance of the interval important in physics?

Invariance of the interval is important because it is a fundamental principle in special relativity that helps us understand the fundamental nature of space and time. It also plays a crucial role in the formulation of physical laws and the prediction of events.

How is invariance of the interval related to the speed of light?

Invariance of the interval is closely related to the speed of light, as it is the only physical quantity that remains constant in all frames of reference. This means that the interval between two events remains the same regardless of the relative motion of the observer and the events.

Is the invariance of the interval a proven concept?

Yes, the invariance of the interval has been extensively tested and proven through various experiments, including the famous Michelson-Morley experiment and the more recent measurement of the speed of light using atomic clocks on airplanes.

Are there any exceptions to the invariance of the interval?

No, the invariance of the interval is a universal principle that holds true in all frames of reference and has not been disproven or found to have any exceptions so far.

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