Ionic Capacitor: Does Imbalance Create an Effect?

In summary, the conversation is about a vat containing water and ions, with two compartments separated by a thin layer. One side contains positive and negative ions, while the other side contains different concentrations of ions. The first hypothesis is that there is an ionic imbalance between the two sides, with the number of negative ions being equal and the number of positive ions being greater on one side. The question is whether there is a "capacitive" effect around the layer, meaning if some ions are attracted or move due to the imbalance. A physicist confirms the analysis, stating that this is related to chemical or electrochemical potential in thermodynamics. Another person mentions the presence of a depletion region and a charge potential, giving voltage drop for the circuit
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Hi All,

Here is my first question: (according to the picture)
A vat is filled with water and ions. The vat contains two compartments separated with a thin layer (green) (50 nanometer).

On a side there is p1 (positive ions) and n1 negative ones,
the other side contains p2 and n2 ions.

1/ first hypothesis
n1 = n2, p1 > p2

Is there a "capacitive" effect around the layer? (In other hands, does some ions move or are attracted because the ionic imbalance)
 

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Hi,

Maybe the question was unclear? :confused:
I just want to know, because there is an ionic imbalance between the two sides if some ions are moving towards the "barrier"/layer? Are the n2 ions attracted closer to the layer?

Thanks in advance.
 
  • #3
Hi all,

:redface: Is there a physicist out there? :redface:
 
  • #4
Yes, you have analyzed the situation correctly. In thermodynamics, this is called chemical or electrochemical potential.
 
  • #5
Many thanks! :smile:
 
  • #6
you msut also consider that there will be a barrier of sorts made in the middle, it will be called a depletion region common in semiconductors of today, anyway... this will have a charge potential built across the barrier, ie. from one side of tank to the other, this potential is what gives the voltage drop for the circuit. then apply some resistance fromt he leads coming out form the top of the tank, and you have your current.
 
  • #7
Hi,

I have some hard to follow your explanation. :confused:
1/ The vat is filled with electrolytes. Im' not sure there is semiconductor effect there?
2/ In the first step of my experience, there is no wires and no electrical circuit.
 
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1. What is an ionic capacitor?

An ionic capacitor is a type of electrical capacitor that uses an ionic liquid as a dielectric material. It stores energy in the form of electrical charge and is commonly used in electronic devices.

2. How does an ionic capacitor work?

An ionic capacitor works by storing energy in the form of electrical charge on the surface of electrodes separated by an ionic liquid. When a voltage is applied, the ions in the liquid are attracted to the opposite electrode, creating a charge imbalance and storing energy.

3. What is meant by "imbalance" in relation to an ionic capacitor?

In an ionic capacitor, imbalance refers to the difference in charge between the two electrodes caused by the movement of ions in the ionic liquid. This imbalance is what allows the capacitor to store energy.

4. Can imbalance in an ionic capacitor create an effect?

Yes, imbalance in an ionic capacitor can create an effect. The stored energy can be released in a controlled manner, which can have various effects depending on the specific application of the capacitor. For example, it can power a device or act as a filter for electrical signals.

5. How does imbalance affect the performance of an ionic capacitor?

Imbalance is essential for the functioning of an ionic capacitor, as it allows for the storage and release of energy. However, an excessive or uneven imbalance can affect the performance of the capacitor, leading to issues such as leakage or decreased energy storage capacity.

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