Iranian Elections

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You should watch the video I posted from CSPAN. Answers these questions by experts who work for congress and have studied Iran for over 30 years. A much more informative view than Hitchens, IMO. (Though I do love hitchens - he's great).
Yes I tried, the video player time out the other day. Will retry.
 
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I hope that's true, but I think history shows this to be naive. That kind of talk circulated after the Soviets squashed Prague, and instead of a fall of the communists another generation or two of Czechs were held captive.
They Iranians will have to work it out and perhaps there are signs that may be beginning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/world/middleeast/08clerics.html
In postelection Iran, there is growing unease among many of the nation’s political and clerical elite that the very system of governance they rely on for power and privilege has been stripped of its religious and electoral legitimacy, creating a virtual dictatorship enforced by an emboldened security apparatus, analysts said.

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Most telling, and arguably most damning, is that many influential religious leaders have not spoken out in support of the beleaguered president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Indeed, even among those who traditionally have supported the government, many have remained quiet or even offered faint but unmistakable criticisms.

According to Iranian news reports, only two of the most senior clerics have congratulated Mr. Ahmadinejad on his re-election, which amounts to a public rebuke in a state based on religion. A conservative prayer leader in the holy city of Qum, Ayatollah Ibrahim Amini, referred to demonstrators as “people” instead of rioters, and a hard-line cleric, Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem-Shirazi, called for national reconciliation.

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It seems to be shaping up as a struggle between democrats (those interested in the 'people') and the autocrats (those egotists interested in their own power and wealth). I would expect there are many who can see the parallels between Khameini/Ahmadinejad and the Shah and his regime.
 
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Ahmadinejad: Iran will "bring down" Western foes
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090716/wl_nm/us_iran_ahmadinejad [Broken]

What a nut! :rolleyes:
 
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Ahmadinejad: Iran will "bring down" Western foes
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090716/wl_nm/us_iran_ahmadinejad [Broken]

What a nut! :rolleyes:
Increased confrontation to gain the respect abroad which he lacks at home? Shocking. :rolleyes:

TNR further prognosticates on what you can expect in his second at-bat:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=82fc3d09-a037-48be-b4e1-957aece9de6b [Broken]
 
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Here's an interesting side bar from about a week ago...

Ahmadinejad's Vice Presidential choice kaiboshed due to moderate stance towards Israel (their kids are married to each other, for a possible nepotistic angle to the appointment):
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-resign20-2009jul20,0,6965373.story

The hardliners, and Khamenei himself, opposed this move and threatened to withdraw their support over the matter (so it's interesting to see that Ahmadinejad hasn't pulled an Enabling Act, and still has to act in accordance to the wishes of his supporters).
 

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