Acceleration Frame Dependency - General Relativity

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In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the geodesics equations and acceleration of particles in both inertial and non-inertial frames. It also explores the implications of using "curved" coordinates in a flat space-time and how this relates to the concept of a gravitational field in General Relativity. The concept of the equivalence principle is also mentioned, which states that the space-time is locally flat and the geodesics equation is used to analyze a curve only locally. Ultimately, it is concluded that the concept of a "gravitational field" is frame variant and the accelerated particle can be described as freely falling in a gravitational field locally.
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I was thinking about the geodesics equations and I realized that a particle will not have acceleration if the connection coefficients vanish, which (I think) is to say we are attatching a inertial frame to the particle. But if we attach a non-inertial frame to the particle, it will probably have acceleration. Nothing new to this point as it works this way even in Newtonian mechanics.

The problem seems to be this: we might be on a flat space-time but using "curved" coordinates. Then in general the particle will be accelerating. Then General Relativity would dictate that the particle is in a gravitational field. Paradox?

Edit: or... maybe this is not a problem as the equivalence principle says that the space-time is locally flat and the geodesics equation is for analysing a curve only locally?
 
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The problem seems to be this: we might be on a flat space-time but using "curved" coordinates. Then in general the particle will be accelerating.
Coordinate acceleration is frame dependent. Proper acceleration is frame independent.
 
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I realized that a particle will not have acceleration if the connection coefficients vanish,
This is not generally true as stated. Do you mean “an inertial particle will not have coordinate acceleration if the connection coefficients vanish”? Please revise your OP paying careful to distinguish between an inertial particle and a non inertial particle and to distinguish between coordinate acceleration and proper acceleration.

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Then General Relativity would dictate that the particle is in a gravitational field. Paradox?
No paradox. The “gravitational field” describes by the connection coefficients (aka Christoffel symbols) is frame variant.
 
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I'd say, "Then locally, GR dictates that the accelerated particle can also be described as if freely falling in a gravitational field".

As if. This is just the equiv.princ.
 
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1. What is acceleration frame dependency in general relativity?

Acceleration frame dependency in general relativity refers to the fact that the laws of physics, specifically those related to acceleration and motion, are dependent on the frame of reference in which they are observed. This means that an object's acceleration can appear different depending on the observer's perspective.

2. How does general relativity explain acceleration frame dependency?

General relativity explains acceleration frame dependency through the concept of spacetime curvature. According to this theory, massive objects like planets and stars create a curvature in spacetime, which affects the motion of other objects in their vicinity. This curvature can cause differences in the observed acceleration of objects from different frames of reference.

3. How does acceleration frame dependency differ from velocity frame dependency?

Acceleration frame dependency and velocity frame dependency are two different concepts in physics. While acceleration frame dependency refers to the observer's frame of reference affecting the observed acceleration of an object, velocity frame dependency refers to the observer's frame of reference affecting the observed velocity of an object. In other words, acceleration frame dependency deals with changes in acceleration, while velocity frame dependency deals with changes in velocity.

4. Is acceleration frame dependency a significant factor in everyday life?

In most cases, acceleration frame dependency is not a significant factor in everyday life. This is because the effects of spacetime curvature are only noticeable when dealing with massive objects, such as planets and stars. In our daily lives, the differences in acceleration due to different frames of reference are usually too small to be observed.

5. How does acceleration frame dependency impact space travel?

Acceleration frame dependency can have a significant impact on space travel. As objects travel through space, they are affected by the gravitational pull of massive objects, causing changes in their acceleration. This can make it challenging to accurately predict and control the motion of spacecraft, leading to the need for precise calculations and adjustments to account for acceleration frame dependency.

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