Is availability of astrophysics/astronomy courses important for an undergrad?

In summary, the conversation discusses a potential problem with the son's college choices, as he wants to study astrophysics but his top choices are small liberal arts schools that do not offer a major in the field. The question raised is whether this will affect his coursework and chances of getting into graduate school. The speaker, who has personal experience with similar colleges, reassures that as long as the school has a decent physics department and employs at least one person doing astronomy research, the son will be fine and can still pursue a career in astronomy with a physics major. The speaker also provides a link to a similar discussion for more insights.
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My son, a high school senior, is on the verge of applying to college. The potential problem we are encountering is that he thinks he'll want to study astrophysics, but his top college choices are mostly small, liberal arts schools that offer neither astronomy or astrophysics as a major. And some appear to offer just 1-2 astronomy classes (though I suspect that they all offer at least that).

The question we have is whether this really matters.

I guess this question really addresses two things:

First, if he attends a small college and majors in physics, will his actual course-work differ much from the experience of attending a school that offers a major in astronomy or astrophysics?

Second, will he be at any disadvantage when it comes to applying to graduate school if he has taken very few astronomy or astrophysics classes?

I suppose I'll also mention some schools he's currently considering, just in case anyone has any first-hand knowledge of their physics departments:

Clark University (his first choice at the moment, but for the lack of a major in astrophysics)
Washington University in St. Louis
University of Rochester
Muhlenberg
Dickinson
Skidmore
University of Wisconsin
Franklin and Marshall
Oberlin
Kenyon
Denison
University of Indiana
Miami at Ohio

Thanks for any thoughts.
 
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I have personal experience with several of the liberal arts colleges on your list. I know several people who have graduated from there, gone on to good grad programs in astronomy and physics, and who are now working in astronomy as a result. Those are all great choices. I attended a small liberal arts college myself (not one your son could attend), and did just fine in astronomy. Heck, a recent Nobel Prize winner in (astro)physics (John Mather) graduated from Swarthmore, another small liberal arts college. As long as they have a decent-sized physics department and hopefully employ at least one person doing some kind of astronomy research, he'll be fine. They don't need a separate astronomy program, and your son needs to major in physics anyway. Astronomy as a major as well would be nice, but it's not required, and not always offered. He needs a strong physics background to get into grad school for astrophysics.
 
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I asked a similar question recently. My situation is a little different (I'm a transfer student and my target school is disolving their Astronomy department), but I think some of the answers may offer a bit of insight. (The consensus seems to echo Eri's sentiment)

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=542805
 

1. What is the importance of having access to astrophysics/astronomy courses during undergraduate studies?

The availability of astrophysics/astronomy courses is crucial for undergraduates who are interested in pursuing a career in this field. These courses provide a strong foundation in the fundamental principles and concepts of astrophysics and astronomy, preparing students for more advanced studies and research in the future.

2. How do astrophysics/astronomy courses benefit undergraduate students?

Astrophysics/astronomy courses not only provide students with a strong theoretical understanding of the subject, but also give them practical experience through laboratory work, research projects, and field trips. These courses also enhance critical thinking, problem-solving, and analytical skills, which are valuable for any career path.

3. Are there any specific skills or knowledge gained from taking astrophysics/astronomy courses?

Aside from the technical knowledge and skills gained in these courses, students also learn important transferable skills such as data analysis, computer programming, and communication. They also gain a deep understanding and appreciation of the vastness and complexity of the universe.

4. Is it necessary for all students to take astrophysics/astronomy courses, even if they are not majoring in this field?

While it may not be necessary for all students to take these courses, they can still benefit from the broad perspective and critical thinking skills that astrophysics/astronomy courses provide. These courses also offer a unique and fascinating way to explore and understand the world around us.

5. How can the availability of astrophysics/astronomy courses impact career opportunities for undergraduates?

The availability of astrophysics/astronomy courses can greatly impact career opportunities for undergraduates. It opens up a wide range of career paths in fields such as research, academia, engineering, data analysis, and science communication. These courses also provide a strong foundation for graduate studies in astrophysics or related fields.

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