Is Becoming a Physicist a Smart Thing to Do, How much Do they earn a year?

In summary: To earn a PhD in any field takes a considerable amount of time. Make sure you choose to do something where you enjoy the process of earning your degree...because it's a long road to get to the point of "being" instead of "becoming" a physicist. A lot of things change during that time too. So, if you enjoy physics now...go for it.
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T.O.E Dream
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Every time i try to Google information about physicist, i don't get what I'm looking for. So, i decided to ask you guys because i know i'll get a good answer.

I need to know this; if someone is really interested in physics should they get a Ph.D in physics. I mean is worth it, do physicist get paid enough.

Can someone tell me how much physicist earn annually, in their first year of experience, in 5 years of experience, in ten and 20,,,. Also, tell me places and companies wish hire physicist. how about NASA, what facilities & centers are the best to work in. And can someone also tell if living as a physicist in major states like New York and California a good lifestyle. Just tell me as much as information about being a physicist as you can, and try to avoid answering by saying it depends.

I really want to become a physicist but i might start to change my mind. but i don't want to be like a surgeon or something else because i'd rather be happy about what I'm doing and get paid little then be miserable and get paid a lot. what i'd like to picture myself in the future is to have a nice house and cars, working with NASA as physicist in California. Can this happen or is way too far fetched. Can someone clear things up for me.
 
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The pay range will be all over the board.

To earn a PhD in any field takes a considerable amount of time. Make sure you choose to do something where you enjoy the process of earning your degree...because it's a long road to get to the point of "being" instead of "becoming" a physicist.

A lot of things change during that time too. So, if you enjoy physics now...go for it.
 
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T.O.E Dream said:
Every time i try to Google information about physicist, i don't get what I'm looking for. So, i decided to ask you guys because i know i'll get a good answer.

I need to know this; if someone is really interested in physics should they get a Ph.D in physics. I mean is worth it, do physicist get paid enough.

Can someone tell me how much physicist earn annually, in their first year of experience, in 5 years of experience, in ten and 20,,,. Also, tell me places and companies wish hire physicist. how about NASA, what facilities & centers are the best to work in. And can someone also tell if living as a physicist in major states like New York and California a good lifestyle. Just tell me as much as information about being a physicist as you can, and try to avoid answering by saying it depends.

I really want to become a physicist but i might start to change my mind. but i don't want to be like a surgeon or something else because i'd rather be happy about what I'm doing and get paid little then be miserable and get paid a lot. what i'd like to picture myself in the future is to have a nice house and cars, working with NASA as physicist in California. Can this happen or is way too far fetched. Can someone clear things up for me.

http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/emp_salary.html

And in anticipation of other questions, may I suggest you go over the various statistics that are also available at the AIP webpage.

Zz.
 
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well can somebody name a few places to work and salary info about that place
 
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You shouldn’t do something just for the money; if you are then physics probably isn’t for you. Let me ask you a question: If you could do physics and only make a comfortable living as in not wealthy but not poor, you would be middle class, would you do it?
 
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Chemical Engineering is where the money is at it seems. and you don't even need high grades to get in.
 
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Stratosphere said:
You shouldn’t do something just for the money; if you are then physics probably isn’t for you. Let me ask you a question: If you could do physics and only make a comfortable living as in not wealthy but not poor, you would be middle class, would you do it?

Yeah, that would be perfect but i also need to know where i would live and where i would work because that also is a factor
 
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Okki2 said:
Chemical Engineering is where the money is at it seems. and you don't even need high grades to get in.

Actually, you should check nuclear engineer's salaries... They are usually the highest.
 
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This is like asking whether being an artist is a smart thing to do. There are people out there who will basically go starving and live a vagabond lifestyle just so they can devote nearly all their time to their art. But for them it's a "smart" thing to do because they love it so much. Now a physicist is not quite as extreme - at least the salary is decent - but whether it is worth it depends highly on how much you love the subject. If you want to make a lot of money become an investment banker.
 
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Cyclovenom said:
Actually, you should check nuclear engineer's salaries... They are usually the highest.

how much do they get paid
 
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also how long does it take to receive a Ph.D in Physics
 
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T.O.E Dream said:
also how long does it take to receive a Ph.D in Physics

7 years?
 
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T.O.E Dream said:
how much do they get paid

You say you don't care abought money and yet you keep asking.
 
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The average PhD in physics takes 6.5 years to earn (not counting undergrad) according to the APS a few years ago.

TOE, once again I'm going to point out this thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=214959 which I suggest you read, because you are quickly falling into the same pattern this poster did.
 
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As far as I can tell, the main benefit of being a physicist is physics. You should think about what is important to you and find a way to factor it into the equation. Personally, I plan on continuing my formal physics education later in life. This isn't standard, but that's not how I roll :biggrin:
 
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don’t worry with your PhD in physics you will make enough money to live where you want and have a nice home and car. Get your B.S. in physics first then decide if you want to go to grad school. physicist get hired by place like 3M , Hewlett packard
computer chip makers , almost any place that has engineering, Bell labs , and other gov. labs. But most of all you should major in physics cause you like it and not for the money I wanted to study engineering at first but I realized how much more interesting physics was so that’s what I am studying now and not for the money.
They are getting computer chips so small that its not long before Quantum mechanics takes over. And based on your screen name i think physics is your best bet.
 
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cragar said:
don’t worry with your PhD in physics you will make enough money to live where you want and have a nice home and car. Get your B.S. in physics first then decide if you want to go to grad school. physicist get hired by place like 3M , Hewlett packard
computer chip makers , almost any place that has engineering, Bell labs , and other gov. labs. But most of all you should major in physics cause you like it and not for the money I wanted to study engineering at first but I realized how much more interesting physics was so that’s what I am studying now and not for the money.
They are getting computer chips so small that its not long before Quantum mechanics takes over. And based on your screen name i think physics is your best bet.

Thanks, i think this was the best answer i got so far. I would never become a physicist if i didn't enjoy physics. Also, i heard that a good physicist gets paid well, so that's also good. But again I'm not all over the money, i'd rather like what I'm doing. Though, I'm not going to actually start college for a long time so I'm afraid that by the time i graduate and then get a Ph.D, things might change, like there might not be much to do in the field of physics so less people will hire physicist and so forth. Could this happen?
 
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eri said:
The average PhD in physics takes 6.5 years to earn (not counting undergrad) according to the APS a few years ago.

TOE, once again I'm going to point out this thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=214959 which I suggest you read, because you are quickly falling into the same pattern this poster did.

Stratosphere said:
You say you don't care abought money and yet you keep asking.

I second these comments. As for your last question, anything *can* happen. No one can predict the future. Find out what you like and do it.
 
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Check out Medical Physics. It is a good lifestyle and a rewarding career.
 
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Okki2 said:
7 years?

I'm just wondering... do these PhD graduates actually REMEMBER EVERYTHING after graduating?

This is one thing I hate about the brain, learn something new, and forget it the next day. It's kind of like, forget about everything you want to do if you hate studying. It's not that you hate learning the material, is' the mind set of "oooh, here let me repeat this **** again so it stays fresh in my head for a few more weeks before I have to to review all over again..."
 
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Keep in mind that a Ph.D. student is typically only taking classes for a year or two. The remainder of the time is spent doing research, usually on a fairly narrow question. By the time you finish, you might forget things from the courses you took early on, but you are well-focused on your research interest and should remember most of what you have done there.
 
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Raizy said:
I'm just wondering... do these PhD graduates actually REMEMBER EVERYTHING after graduating?

This is one thing I hate about the brain, learn something new, and forget it the next day. It's kind of like, forget about everything you want to do if you hate studying. It's not that you hate learning the material, is' the mind set of "oooh, here let me repeat this **** again so it stays fresh in my head for a few more weeks before I have to to review all over again..."

Yes and no.

Earning a Ph.D. isn't about memorization. It's about learning and developing the skills necessary to conduct research. It's very likely you won't remember every little detail of your project, and it's very unlikely that you will ever need to. But there is a lot of rigor involved in a Ph.D. project and so you will usually remember the skills you've learned, or at least establish a conceptual base on which to build new skills.
 
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hmmm... neuroplasticity at it's finest.
 
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Here's the thing, "physicist" isn't really a job title. Most physicists are professors or researchers at universities, government labs, and a few private research labs.

Its a difficult path: 4 years to do undergrad, 4-6 years to do your PhD, 2-4 years as a post-doctoral fellow, then 5-7 years as an assistant professor before you get your tenure.

Salaries: PhD: ~20-30k Postdoc: ~40-60K, assistant prof: ~60-100K.

If you want a job in private industry, you'll have to sell yourself as an engineer or just get an engineering degree. I know it sucks (I wanted to be a physicist too! Ended up as EE)

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"Physicist" is a job title - at least for me.

Also, physicists' options in the job market are not limited to engineering. However, if one is inclined towards pursuing engineering specifically, then obviously that is a better educational route.
 
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Raizy said:
I'm just wondering... do these PhD graduates actually REMEMBER EVERYTHING after graduating?

This is one thing I hate about the brain, learn something new, and forget it the next day. It's kind of like, forget about everything you want to do if you hate studying. It's not that you hate learning the material, is' the mind set of "oooh, here let me repeat this **** again so it stays fresh in my head for a few more weeks before I have to to review all over again..."

Everyone forgets a lot of the stuff they learn doing college.

They'll have to "re-learn" it while doing their real jobs and that's when they begin to master them.
 
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i have a question is majoring in math a smart thing to do to get a job in industry
it seems like a math degree would be hard to apply in the job market.
 
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cragar said:
i have a question is majoring in math a smart thing to do to get a job in industry
it seems like a math degree would be hard to apply in the job market.

If you're majoring in math, it would be so much better to do graduate studies and finish with a Ph. D.

Leaving school with a bachelor's degree with only get you to become a high school teacher at best.
 
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ya you are probably right
 
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Being good at anything will most likely get you decent compensation.Petroleum engineering is another easier, lucrative engineering degree to be had. Locations for work might be more restrictive, but starting salaries can range from 80-110k, at least from the better petroleum schools.
 

1. Is becoming a physicist a smart thing to do?

It depends on your interests and career goals. Physicists typically have strong analytical and problem-solving skills, which can be useful in a variety of fields. However, it may also require a lot of dedication and hard work to succeed in this field.

2. How much do physicists earn in a year?

The salary of a physicist can vary greatly depending on their level of education, experience, and industry. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the median annual wage for physicists in the United States was $122,850 in May 2020.

3. What kind of education is required to become a physicist?

To become a physicist, you typically need a bachelor's degree in physics or a related field. Many physicists also have a master's or doctoral degree in physics, which can open up more job opportunities and higher salaries.

4. What are the job prospects for physicists?

The job outlook for physicists is expected to grow 7% from 2019 to 2029, which is faster than the average for all occupations. This growth is driven by advancements in technology and the need for physicists in industries such as healthcare, energy, and aerospace.

5. What skills are important for a physicist to have?

Some important skills for a physicist include strong analytical and mathematical abilities, critical thinking, and problem-solving skills. They also need to have strong communication skills to present their findings and collaborate with others in their field.

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