Is God in the Details of the Universe?

  1. Is God in the Details?
    From cosmic coincidence to conservative cosmopolitics.

    By Kenneth Silber

    Victor J. Stenger has created new universes. Lots of them. In some, the stars shine for only a fraction of a second. In others, atoms are the size of tennis balls and a typical day lasts trillions of hours. Stenger achieves these wildly disparate results by altering a few of the underlying "constants" of nature--the mass of a proton, for example, or the strength of the electromagnetic force. He ends up with worlds that look radically different from our own.

    Stenger is a theoretical physicist at the University of Hawaii and author of a book titled The Unconscious Quantum: Metaphysics in Modern Physics and Cosmology. His "universes" are computer simulations, the output of a program that he wrote and has named--a bit provocatively--"Monkey God." Stenger does not plan out the universes that he creates; he has allowed particle masses and force strengths to vary randomly, many orders of magnitude different from the levels observed in nature. A lot of the resulting universes, says Stenger, "look pretty funny but still had long-lived stars."

    Complete text at http://reason.com/9907/fe.ks.is.shtml
     
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  3. If God does exist, then it's inescapable, the evidence is all around us. Indeed, it would seem the intelligence associated with "our design," is capable of recognizing the intelligence associated with the design of the Universe.
     
  4. Maybe there is no God - only the all-powerful theoretical physicist in the sky.

    Actually I think he's more of a medium-scale kinda guy - not too big, not too small, just right.
     
  5. How sad. Stenger is perhaps the worst philosopher physicist of all time, and now he's going to attempt metaphysics. Yikes.
     
  6. I had always been told that the devil is in the details.
     
  7. From TalkOrigins.org - Design is self-evident:
     
  8. No, God(s) is not in design.

    Stenger's experimentation is only good for the hypothetical purposes, but does not reflect upon what the Physics is like in the real world.

    Short answer: The four fundamental forces are not determined randomly, they are not "designed", they exist as properties of matter. Even given the possibility that many Big Bangs and Big Crunches have occurred or alternate dimensions can exist, the same fundamental forces would remain unchanged. It is essentially a scenario that roots itself a little like this: Why does 1 + 1 = 2, why doesnt it equal 3?

    It has been speculated that in the very early universe, the temperature was so high that the 4 fundamental forces were unified, then as the temperature cooled, the forces gradually became seperate (there values determined at random). However, there is nothing to support that view, its just one of many possible scientific explanations.

    Some people believe the universe is so finely tuned that God is the only explanation. From TalkOrigin.org:
    Long answer: http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0207047
     
  9. The fact that we can take things and quantify them (i.e., the laws of physics), suggests that yes, there is a design element involved. For then we'll take these same quantifications and go off and "design" our own realities.
     
  10. The fact that we can take things and quantify them (i.e., the laws of physics), suggests that yes, there is a design element involved. For then we'll take these same quantifications and go off and "design" our own realities. [/QUOTE]
    From TalkOrigins.org - Design Is Detectable:
    (The number is a little off... oh well...)
     
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