Proving Element In Union of Two Infinite Sets Not Necessarily In Intersection

In summary, the best way to prove that an element may not be in the intersection of two infinite sets is to provide a counter-example. This can be done by finding two infinite sets that do not intersect at all, as shown in the conversation. Both methods are equally valid, but using non-intersecting sets may be easier to understand and visualize.
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woundedtiger4
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Problem:
Prove that if an element is in the union of two infinite sets then it is not necessarily in their intersection:

Proof:
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Have I solved it correctly?
 
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Correct but awkward. The best way to prove something is NOT true is to give a counter-example. Let A= {(x, 0)}, the set of all points on the x-axis. Let B= {(0, y)}, the set of all points on the y-axis. Those are both infinite sets and their union is the set of all pairs of numbers in which at least one of the pair is 0. But their intersection is just {(0, 0)}.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Correct but awkward.
I don't see the OP's method being any more or less awkward than yours, really.

The best way to prove something is NOT true is to give a counter-example.
That is exactly what the OP did; just using a different couple of sets. The main difference was that the OP's two sets didn't even intersect at all, which is fine.

In fact, you could argue that that is a more obvious way to find a counter-example. Surely it is easier to find two infinite sets that do not intersect in the first place?

However, I'm not saying your answer was awkward either. :smile:
 
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Yes, your proof is correct. To prove that an element is not necessarily in the intersection of two infinite sets, we can use a counterexample. Let's consider the sets A = {1, 2, 3, ...} and B = {2, 4, 6, ...}. Both of these sets are infinite and their union is also infinite. However, their intersection is the empty set, as there are no common elements between them. Therefore, any element that is in the union of A and B (e.g. 2) is not necessarily in their intersection. This counterexample proves that the statement "if an element is in the union of two infinite sets then it is not necessarily in their intersection" is true.
 

1. What is the definition of "Proving Element In Union of Two Infinite Sets Not Necessarily In Intersection"?

The term "Proving Element In Union of Two Infinite Sets Not Necessarily In Intersection" refers to the process of showing that an element belongs to the union of two infinite sets, without necessarily belonging to their intersection.

2. Why is this concept important in mathematics?

This concept is important in mathematics because it allows us to demonstrate the existence of elements in the union of two infinite sets, even if they do not belong to their intersection. This can help us understand the relationships between different sets and their elements.

3. How is this concept different from proving element in the intersection of two sets?

The main difference is that proving element in the intersection of two sets requires the element to belong to both sets, while proving element in the union of two sets only requires the element to belong to one or both of the sets.

4. Can you provide an example of "Proving Element In Union of Two Infinite Sets Not Necessarily In Intersection"?

Sure, let's say we have two infinite sets A = {1, 2, 3, 4, ...} and B = {2, 4, 6, 8, ...} and we want to prove that the element 3 belongs to their union, but not their intersection. We can show that 3 belongs to both sets, thus proving it belongs to their union, but it does not belong to the intersection since it is not a multiple of 2.

5. Are there any real-life applications of this concept?

Yes, this concept is used in various fields such as computer science, economics, and statistics. For example, in computer science, this concept is used to analyze the relationships between different sets of data, and in economics, it can help in understanding the overlapping areas of different markets.

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