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Is it true that people interested in Science are Geek(ish)/Nerd(ish)?=>Y/N:Why?

  1. May 9, 2004 #1
    Why is it that non-interested people say that people interested in science are geeks/nerds/geekish/nerdish?
    Is it true?
    If yes, why? :cry:
    If no, why? :smile:

    I understand that almost all sensetive questions seem to start off with a dispute about the definitions. So let's see everyone's definitions of 'geeks'/'nerds' at the outset - if you believe such a thing exists.
     
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  3. May 9, 2004 #2

    selfAdjoint

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    If you are very interested in science, then you are by definition interested in something that bores most people to tears. And if you try to talk to them about it, they will respond to their boredom, not to your interest.
     
  4. May 9, 2004 #3

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    I can't stand talking to non-geeks. It's too much like talking to a 10 year old.
     
  5. May 9, 2004 #4
    Nerd:

    1. A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
    2. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

    By technical definition there probably aren't very many Nerd's out there. By public definition Nerds are everywhere. Technically, I'm probably not one.

    When I say public definition I'm refering to things like the word "Sick" meaning cool. Most public people classify someone who is smart as a Nerd, especially if they have glasses and other stereotypical Nerd qualities. Geek is the same definition.

    I'm proud of being a publically defined Nerd and like someone above, I find it difficult talking to someone who isn't one. However when someone calls me a Geek, I say I prefer the term Nerd. Geek just sounds weird to me.

    So people interested in Science by the public eye are probably Nerds. If you came up with evidence against them calling you this most would probably laugh, call you a Nerd again, and run off. I hope I clarified things somewhat. This is only my take on the subject.
     
  6. May 9, 2004 #5

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    I'm not a geek or a nerd, i was quite the opposite and used
    to have a low opinion of bookworms, because of that
    i have had to work very hard to get a half decent job,
    so learn what you can ,but dont be to hard on the
    ignorant, we didn't know you needed knowledge to
    get on in the world.
     
  7. May 9, 2004 #6
    That definition seems rather skewed to me. It means both an accomplished scientist as well as a foolish, inept person. I dont know very many science-type people who are foolish or inept.
     
  8. May 9, 2004 #7

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    What do you think those "special guests" visiting the school were trying to tell you?

    Football player: school is ok
    Kid1: what did he say?
    Kid2: I think he said school is totally gay

    :wink:
     
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  9. May 9, 2004 #8
    ?nerds what is that? Candy is good.
     
  10. May 9, 2004 #9
    It seems to me that the subculture of nerds/geeks typically involves the following interests: fantasy, sci-fi, star trek, and D&D. I've never been interested in those pasttimes (except dabbled briefly in sci-fi). Also, the stereotpyical nerd/geek is lame at sport and hates it, but I've always done pretty well at it, and enjoy it.

    But if I'm wrong, and being a nerd/geek actually means to devote oneself to an interest to such an extent that it takes significant time away from activities society expects you to take part in, like socialising and courting, then nerds and geeks are solely responsible for the advance of civilisation.
     
  11. May 9, 2004 #10
    I too do not fit in with cragwolf's description of a nerd. I believe the common stereotype of a nerd is pictured in the Simpsons (e.g. Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con), where most nerds walk around in otherworldy costumes and speak with high-pitched voices. Outside of the costumes the show also depicts them as having pocket protectors, nose bleeds, and pack-like instincts.
     
  12. May 9, 2004 #11

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    I don't fit most of those nerd things, but I'm still classified as a nerd. I think it's mostly based on appreciation of knowledge. If you enjoy being smart, you are a nerd. If you love computers, you're a nerd (no excuses).

    I love parties, and I drink more alcohol than anybody else I know, but I'm a nerd because I love computers too much. I actually skipped senior prom to fix my computer.
     
  13. May 9, 2004 #12

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    Don't forget the horrible subcategory:

    The (cue dramatic music) Enginerd

    *sigh*
     
  14. May 9, 2004 #13

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    Engineers are nerds at your university? At University of Alberta, they're the cool kids. They're the ones with the best parties. They're the ones who drink the most. They're the ones who have the most fun (until they fail all first semester classes :biggrin:). The engineers at U of A are thought of as the idiots on campus (not including basket weaving courses like philosophy).

    I was in engineering at a tech school and all the guys there were pretty awesome. We went to the bar all the time. We had pub crawls. The leaders of the Mechanical Engineering department organized a trip to Las Vegas over the Christmas break.
    Engineering is pretty fun actually. Next year in chem, I expect to be grouped with nerds who are not as fun but are easier to relate to.
     
  15. May 9, 2004 #14

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    Geeks come in all flavors. I know science geeks, literary geeks, computer geeks, insurance geeks (they're the geekiest of geeks, IMHO), history geeks, math geeks, legal geeks, scrabble geeks, stamp-collecting geeks, bird-watching geeks, finance geeks. When I think of a geek, I think of someone who is very passionate about a particular subject and has a tendency to talk on the topic of interest ad nauseum.
     
  16. May 9, 2004 #15
    If that is the case, then what about the traditional "cool" kids who are classified as jocks? Since they seem so apt at socializing would they be social geeks?
     
  17. May 9, 2004 #16

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    ha ha That's an interesting classification, Motai. Is "social geek" an oxymoron?
     
  18. May 9, 2004 #17

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    Yeah but it's no worse than "stupid nerd". Man, jocks are such idiots. I haven't yet figured out if they are poisoning the gene pool with idiocy or enhancing it with fitness.
     
  19. May 9, 2004 #18

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    I was a "bookworm" and referred to as an "egghead", although I never considered myself worthy of the latter.

    Wolram, from your posts I would consider you an "egghead". I guess you've made up for those lost years!!! :smile:
     
  20. May 10, 2004 #19

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    Used perjoratively, it seems to be almost entirely based on appearance whether or not a kid is called a geek/nerd/whatever.

    The saddest thing is the kid who is classified as "geek" or "nerd" but isn't really that smart. Of the several severly socially inept students at my high school, none of them ever do very well in my physics class (if they take it at all). It's not that they aren't wearing the "right" clothes, it's that they are wearing the absolutely-most-definitely "wrong" clothes and glasses and haircut etc. THey might have tattooed "abuse me" on their forehead to finish it off!

    Some such kids have such defenses built up that they will push away or even strike back at anyone who tries to give them a hand.
     
  21. May 10, 2004 #20

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    I believe that the correct term for someone like that is "dork".
     
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