Is organic chemistry really necessary for molecular bio research?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the necessity of organic chemistry for research in molecular biology. Participants explore the relevance of organic chemistry knowledge in various aspects of molecular biology, including experimental design, understanding biochemical reactions, and the use of commercial kits.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a background in organic chemistry is not strictly required for molecular biology research, especially if one is not involved in synthesizing compounds or conducting chemical reactions.
  • Others argue that organic chemistry provides essential knowledge for recognizing molecular structures and understanding reaction mechanisms, which can enhance research comprehension.
  • It is noted that reliance on commercial kits may reduce the necessity for formal organic chemistry training, but understanding the underlying chemistry is crucial for certain experimental designs.
  • One participant emphasizes that a solid understanding of organic chemistry is vital for developing new tools in molecular biology, as opposed to merely applying existing methods.
  • Another viewpoint highlights that without organic chemistry, one might have to accept certain concepts on faith, whereas knowledge of organic chemistry can lead to a more intuitive understanding of biochemical processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the necessity of organic chemistry for molecular biology research. While some believe it is essential, others contend that it may not be strictly required depending on the specific research focus. No consensus is reached on the issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the relevance of organic chemistry may depend on the specific nature of the research being conducted, including whether it involves significant chemical reactions or the development of new methodologies.

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So I've always realized that organic chemistry and physical chemistry were huge gaps in my scientific background, and I still can't fill them up for some time, as I have many other subjects to study. But I've read large sections of molecular biology books (like Alberts and Lodish), and I've noticed that my lack of background in chemistry hasn't really affected me at all (I do have chemistry only up to the level of AP Chem and very basic organic chemistry). I've also read some research papers in molecular biology, and I haven't really noticed any impediments from my lack of knowledge yet. It does mean that you have to take on the organic chemistry/physical chemistry on faith, but frankly, much of scientific research *must* be taken on faith, as science is becoming so specialized anyways.

Even when reading the less technical sections of biochemistry texts (I read lots of psychopharmacology papers as they relate to dopamine research), I can see that I can mostly take things on faith.

Of course, I do intend to fill in the gap sometime.
 
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If you are not going to synthesize new compounds or work with chemical/enzymatic reactions, the subjects are probably not strictly required, but they give you a background that helps you to recognize molecular structures and reaction kinetics. I think they should be required as a basic scientific training.
 
If you are going to rely on kits, you probably don't need a formal o-chem background. If you need to couple some molecules yourself, you probably will need o-chem. Much of molecular biology is done in aqueous solution with commercially-available kits using enzyme-mediated reactions and for this sort of work o-chem provides interesting but probably unneeded background. However, if you want to understand the mechanism of a reaction in an enzyme active site, if you want to couple a fluorochrome or affinity tag onto a macromolecule, or if you want to design a small-molecule inhibitor of a biochemical reaction, you will need to use organic chemistry.
 
I believe Chemistry is essential to understand Biology to the extend of majoring in the former to understand the latter. Do not take P-chem without first completing two semesters of differential equations.
 
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you would have a much better understanding at your research if you take org. chem first.
but, it depends on you research. if it involve lot of reactions and making, breaking complexes or how the complax reacts and what affects it has on different things, then yes, you should take org. chem first.

overall, i would say you will have much better understanding of your experiment if you take org. chem first.
 
If you really want to do molecular biology research, I would think organic chemistry is essential. Afterall, it's completely different to read what someone else has done and decide to just trust them on it than to be the one who has to do that experiment and explain it to someone else.

You can probably get along for some time without it if you're just using molecular biology tools to do your research, but if you're truly a molecular biologist, which means you'd be developing the new tools others will apply, you're going to need a solid understanding of organic chemistry.

I would be surprised if any decent molecular biology graduate program would even consider an applicant who had never taken organic chemistry.
 
Lol this is old, but I was creeping your threads and posting in them so...

Take a super basic example like the ring formation of simple sugars like glucose.

Without organic chemistry, you would have to take this on faith.

On the other hand, with ochem, the structure of linear glucose would strongly suggest the formation of a ring and predicting the ring, and its isomers, formed would be relatively intuitive. Less rote memorization needed.
 
Lol this is old, but I was creeping your threads and posting in them so...

Take a super basic example like the ring formation of simple sugars like glucose.

Without organic chemistry, you would have to take this on faith.

On the other hand, with ochem, the structure of linear glucose would strongly suggest the formation of a ring and predicting the ring, and its isomers, formed would be relatively intuitive. Less rote memorization needed.
 

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