My opponent, Nico, has been seduced, through playful theatre, in challenging a new dialectic that was created on the internet called OS 012. It was not created by myself, I was just the person who found myself in the center of it, and became so to speak the 'scribe' of it through discussion with hundreds and thousands of global citisens challenging it. OS 012 is not a group, organisation, philosophy, metaphysics, or religion. It is basically just an idea, a global dialectic that was formed and will continue to form through discussion. It is free of charge and in the public domain. Posted on a website. so here is the first challenge to OS 012 from this forum, and in this I am greatly excited. through this process, I hope to come to greater understanding of OS 012, and I hope that OS 012 will also be upgraded to more dominant ideas through this. Here goes... Nico, what do you have to say? (this discussion was seeded on the truth thread) I did not hijack it because I was ignorant. I hijacked it to instigate a discussion about the nature of truth in relation to OS 012. I have much to learn about symbolic logic, and you are helping me. SO I ask we start again with a clean slate, and end the personal attacks, if you continue to do this, you will only have your own words thrown back at you, and they are irrelevant inside of a rational discussion. We all have much to learn, and no one holds the keys to all truth or knowledge, so let's come down off of our pedastal and engage like to thinking human beings, shall we? If what you are saying is true, then I hope to become enlightend by what you have to share in this regard tsk tsk, not a very nice way to address your opponent inside of a discussion. and you still seem to be arguing with me, so if I am an idiot, who is more idiotic, me, or the 'intellectual' who loves discussing with me and challenging the ideas? I have much to learn, Nico, but I am no idiot. I would be an idiot if I thought otherwise. Please do expose my irrationality, that is what OS 012 is all about, I cant hope to know what is certain without you or anyone else. art is FALSE in objective reality, and I will explain to you how I came to this conclusion. there is a perspective here that you have not yet gleened, just like there is a perspective about you that I have not yet seen. well, you got the website right, but I must challenge your assertation here ( I thought you dont like naked assertations?) One, I really dont appreciate the deception of calling OS 012, or me, a cult, or internet cult, or anything assosiated with such garbage. There is no group, I am in no group, and any such refrence is misleading. I am a user of OS 012, just like anyone else. I am no more important than any other OS 012 user. However, even if this was a cult, that is irrelevant about the ideas contained inside of OS 012, so let's just focus on the ideas, and not any image you have about it in your head, k? You are correct in saying that is was born out of the anti-war movement, and the goal of OS 012 is to create a functioning and rational world peace, yes, this is true.