Is the Moon a Boson? Astronomy & Quantum Spin Explained

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In summary, the question asks about the sum of all the quantum spins of particles that make up the moon. However, due to the moon being constantly influenced by its surroundings, it is not in a spin eigenstate and therefore the characterization as boson or fermion does not apply.
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This could be an astronomically stupid question but I cannot think of a sensible answer. What is the sum of all the quantum spins of all the particles that make up the moon ? If it was a whole number I suppose the answer would be 'yes'.
 
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The moon? Why the moon?
 
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Why the moon? Probably just to attempt to characterize the presented example object as an "isolated" object; but it's not really. No more easy or clear to define the set of particles that make up the moon at any instant than it is to consider the same for an apple or a chair.

One might try to get to the sense of the question by stipulating an object free of influences (shielded from radiation and placed free of gravitational influence in deep space... etc.), or stipulate the particle count for an otherwise compromised object at an instant in time, but I don't think those work either because of uncertainty principle, at least.
 
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Let me rephrase the question. If we counted up all the spins in one instant, what is probability that it will be 1) and integer 2) an integer + 1/2 3) a real number ?
 
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Let me rephrase the question. If we counted up all the spins in one instant, what is probability that it will be 1) and integer 2) an integer + 1/2 3) a real number ?

Neither. The moon, or any other object with sufficiently many interacting degrees of freedom, is not in a spin eigenstate. Therefore the characterisation as boson or fermion doesn't apply.
 
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Great.
Is it the same for a small saucepan?
 
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Neither. The moon, or any other object with sufficiently many interacting degrees of freedom, is not in a spin eigenstate. Therefore the characterisation as boson or fermion doesn't apply.
Thank you.
 
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If you have something like
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left(\left|\mathrm{spin 1/2}\right> + \left|\mathrm{spin 3/2}\right>\right)##
that's still a fermion, right?
And
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left(\left|\mathrm{spin 2}\right> + \left|\mathrm{spin 3}\right>\right)##
is still a boson, right?
As long as you are in an eigenstate of particle number, the total spin still has to come out either a superposition of integers or a superposition of integer+1/2.
Of course, the moon is constantly exchanging particles with the surroundings, so maybe it's not in a particle number eigenstate.
 
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1. Is the Moon a boson or a fermion?

The Moon is neither a boson nor a fermion. These terms refer to particles on the subatomic level, and the Moon is a celestial body consisting of a large number of atoms and molecules.

2. What is a boson in astronomy?

In astronomy, a boson refers to one of the two types of particles in the Standard Model of particle physics. Bosons have integer spin and follow Bose-Einstein statistics, and they are responsible for mediating fundamental forces such as electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces.

3. What is quantum spin in astronomy?

In astronomy, quantum spin refers to the intrinsic angular momentum of subatomic particles. It is a fundamental property of particles and is quantized, meaning it can only have certain discrete values. Spin plays a crucial role in determining the behavior and interactions of particles.

4. How is quantum spin related to the Moon?

Quantum spin does not directly relate to the Moon. However, the particles that make up the Moon, such as protons and neutrons, have spin, and their behavior and interactions are influenced by this property.

5. Can the Moon be in a superposition state?

No, the Moon cannot be in a superposition state. Superposition is a quantum phenomenon that occurs on the subatomic level, and the Moon is made up of a large number of particles that do not exhibit this behavior. The Moon follows classical mechanics and can only exist in one definite state at a time.

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