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Is there a general trait among women to keep no secrets?

  1. Aug 7, 2010 #1
    Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I've been in a relationship with a wonderful girl for several long months now, and have known her for quite a bit longer...she is wonderful, and I love her to pieces, but we recently began to have "intimate" encounters, and lately I'm finding that she has a hard time keeping it to herself.

    For instance, last night...she had sent me some suggestive text messages, while she was at a friend's house (normal for teenagers, as far as I can tell). I wasn't alarmed, so I replied accordingly...within 10 minutes, her best friend was sending me text messages from my girlfriend's phone. Commenting on our intimate conversation. I was under the impression that our conversation was exclusive, and was a bit upset by this interruption. The next day, I was talking to her friend and apparently, my girlfriend had given this friend complete access to our intimate messages, and the freedom to comment. At first, I was furious and didn't believe a word of it. Come to find out, that indeed she was given full liberty to invade our privacy and do as she pleased.

    I spoke to my girlfriend about this earlier today, only to find out that it was true and her only response to my question, "Why did you let her invade our private conversation??" was: "Because she's my best friend."

    Don't get me wrong, it's completely fine with me that my girlfriend confides secrets with others, but what upsets me is that she allowed her friend to let me know what secrets she had been told. I was utterly embarrassed, and am still a bit upset.

    My question to the forum: Is my reaction to this unreasonable? Is it at all not right for me to be upset at my girlfriend's disregard for exclusivity?

    And, this is but one example..I've had many, many more experiences like this with other women, and it's only showing me that women have to confide their secrets with someone in order for them to have any meaning. I would greatly appreciate it if someone, anyone would enlighten me on this... Thanks for reading this lengthy post.

    -Jorge

    Edit: Perhaps I should mention, for the sake of covering as much of the scenario as possible, that we had never mentioned any boundaries for our privacy (I had always considered these types of conversations private by implication, but I suppose I was wrong). Is this a problem that I should have covered before having intimate conversations?
     
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  3. Aug 7, 2010 #2

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    This is your girlfriend's personality. It has nothing to do with "women" in general.

    You're only 16, so I don't know how you can say that you had many experiences.

    Now that your girlfriend knows how you feel about sharing intimate information, has she agreed to stop?
     
  4. Aug 7, 2010 #3
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    well i certainly don't think you should be shocked to discover that women tell their best friends most everything.
     
  5. Aug 7, 2010 #4
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    I'm not terribly shocked at the fact that she tells her best friend everything, but I am upset at how she gives her best friend the right to interact with an entirely private subject. Please, let me know if I'm being irrational.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2010 #5

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    Irrational? It is more complicated. Women are complex, and secrets do not belong to the real part.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2010 #6
    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    The mere fact that I am young means nothing when it comes to topics that are intrinsically private by nature; for instance while talking about anything private. This isn't limited to intimate discussions of this sort, nor am I saying that all of the other examples of this had with women who I've been in relationships with.

    It may be solely my girlfriend's personality, but I am noticing a strong trend. Forgive me if I seem to be treating this as empirical evidence.

    Sorry if I seem blunt here, but perhaps it's my fault for choosing company who seem to consistently react in a particular way...

    She knows how I feel now, but she is still constantly bringing up the fact that she should be allowed to tell her best friend whatever she so chooses...I'm not entirely sure that means that she will stop; at the very least stop giving her friend access to interact with our discussions.

    Sorry if I seem blunt here, but perhaps it's my fault for choosing company who seem to consistently react in a particular way...
     
  8. Aug 7, 2010 #7
    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I agree, it is more complicated, but I'm simply asking if my reaction seems irrational to anyone else looking in on this scenario. And, can you please elaborate on "...secrets do not belong to the real part." :confused:
     
  9. Aug 7, 2010 #8

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I don't think you've been in any relationships with "women" yet. I think you've been in relationships with teenage girls.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2010 #9

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    Correct. The secrets are linearly independent from the part of women that men observe.
     
  11. Aug 7, 2010 #10
    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I am aware of this, but I am merely asking everyone if my reaction to what should be (in my opinion) a completely, intrinsically private conversation, becoming not-so-private, is justified.
     
  12. Aug 7, 2010 #11
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    well, with all due respect, you should realize that while she tells her best friend things, you are making a post online for the world to see. granted, none of us know your real name and you aren't sharing anything 'private' but you must see how it is similar. if you think it's a problem you should confront her. if she won't stop and that upsets you, break it off.
     
  13. Aug 7, 2010 #12
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    My posting this problem here with no direct detail is absolutely nothing compared to the details that were disclosed earlier. It is similar, I agree, but the purpose of gaining advice is, in my defense, completely different from my girlfriend's purpose of recreation when she disclosed what she did. Thanks for your advice.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2010 #13

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I was kidding in that post, btw.

    In all seriousness: you're completely justified to be furious - I certainly would be upset if I were in your shoes. I think it's highly disrespectful and inappropriate to share details of intimate conversations without letting you know beforehand.

    Also, don't generalize this behavior to all females, or even just some females; I'm sure there are males who do it too.
     
  15. Aug 7, 2010 #14
    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    Thanks...my main problem is that now, I'm not 100% sure that she won't breach our privacy again, and I'm afraid of saying anything to her that I wouldn't want someone else to hear about. And, I'm also concerned about anything else that she might not have seen as "private", and is now no longer anything of the sort. I'm going to have to make myself 100% clear with her about something that should have been clear before we even started dating...>.<
     
  16. Aug 7, 2010 #15
    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I'm going to grammar nazi your face off and make sure you realize that it's 'private' not "private."
     
  17. Aug 7, 2010 #16

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    I'd say you have a completely clear and rational grasp of the situation.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2010 #17
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    Touché good sir, touché. I...don't really care a whole lot about my grammar mistakes, given the circumstances...but that's just me.
     
  19. Aug 7, 2010 #18

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    Re: Is there a general trait among women...to keep no secrets???

    Ah, grammar nazis...bless their hearts :tongue2:.
     
  20. Aug 7, 2010 #19
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    But to the imaginary part?

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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