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http://www.aolvideoblog.com/2007/05/11/angry-professor-vs-cell-phone/
I wonder where this guy teachs.
I wonder where this guy teachs.
mathwonk said:On the other hand, remember the prof looked at the phone first. We don't know what he saw!
mathwonk said:This would be very unusual at a state school like mine, if not unheard of, but in the 60's at a good private school, not only would this have been tolerated, but the student would have probably been disciplined further, and maybe kicked completely out of the course if he had said a word.
check said:I don't know... if that had happened in the 60's the professor would have grabbed the cell phone and yelled "what is this demonry?!" and then made off with it and sold the technology to the military. Of course there were no cell towers around in the 60s so the time traveling student wouldn't be on the phone in the first place.
mathwonk said:As an old man, with less fragile ego, now I would just laugh. This stuff happens all the time. After all my wife sometimes calls my cellphone too in class when I have forgotten to turn it off. I take the attitude that we are all in the same boat, and I am not royalty.
mathwonk said:People no longer realize how rude this is. Its better if we don't take it personally. Everyone has been in the position of doing something rude, and we all appreciate it when we are taught better in a way that does not embarrass us. I can still remember insightful and considerate teachers who could correct me with just a look and a smile.
Astronuc said:I dare say that most people are so important that they need a phone by their side constantly, unless it is an emergency responder.
Are you serious? Why?Xezlec said:I refuse to purchase a cell phone
JasonRox said:I don't own a cellphone either. I don't have hatred towards them. That's just an odd thing to have.
I'm just too cheap to get one.
radou said:Interesting. Here in my country, I literarily don't know a person who doesn't own a cell phone. They're simply a practical thing to have.
But, I must admit that I despise the cell phone industry and all of it's marketing "tricks" that people go for.
moose said:Are you serious? Why?
Xezlec said:Because they serve no practical purpose that I can see, and have obvious drawbacks. I mean that might not be true for everyone, but it is for me.
Drawbacks:
- I hate being interrupted and having to wait silently while my friends spend 1-2 hours talking to someone on the phone, after I made the time to go and hang out with them. I don't want to be randomly interrupted while I'm out doing something with someone.
- Every time I see bad driving, or almost get killed, the driver is talking on their cell phone and not paying attention. I don't want to do two things at once, like talking on the phone while walking, working, or anything else.
- I dislike phone conversations in general, really. Why encourage that mode of conversation over others I prefer, such as email?
Practical purpose:
- Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to carry around a phone in case of an "emergency" (like what, exactly? How often does this happen? An emergency communication device for that price?)
- Am I really supposed to be available for conversation by anyone all the time? There's no reason that I know of that that would be necessary.
- When am I away from any phones? Well, let's see. When I'm in transit, and that's about it. Why do I need so desperately to contact people in that little time window? There is a phone at my home and at work. Those are the appropriate places for phone calls.
- I hate being interrupted and having to wait silently while my friends spend 1-2 hours talking to someone on the phone, after I made the time to go and hang out with them. I don't want to be randomly interrupted while I'm out doing something with someone.
- Every time I see bad driving, or almost get killed, the driver is talking on their cell phone and not paying attention. I don't want to do two things at once, like talking on the phone while walking, working, or anything else.
- I dislike phone conversations in general, really. Why encourage that mode of conversation over others I prefer, such as email?
- Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to carry around a phone in case of an "emergency" (like what, exactly? How often does this happen? An emergency communication device for that price?)
- Am I really supposed to be available for conversation by anyone all the time? There's no reason that I know of that that would be necessary.
Same here. Although I do carry my old cell phone around with me as a watch.JasonRox said:I don't own a cellphone either. I don't have hatred towards them. That's just an odd thing to have.
I'm just too cheap to get one.
JasonRox said:Who said you need to be on it for 1-2 hours? Why don't you just turn the damn thing off if you don't want to be interrupted when going out with friends. Problem solved.
Don't talk on the cellphone and drive. Either turn the phone off before you start driving, or simply don't answer the phone while driving. Problem solved. No one said you need to drive and talk on the phone just because you have cellphone. Get real.
Conversations aren't the only use of a cellphone. You have text messages or flat out don't start conversations. If I had a cellphone, I'd only use to see what's going on and where people are at. No conversations needed. Problem solved.
No one mentions "emergency" as the main reason for getting a cellphone. That's like so 10 years ago. We now get cellphones because we want them, adn the "emergency" part is just an add on. So, you're not paying for an emergency device. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
If you're not available for a conversation or any interruption, don't pick up the phone or turn the damn thing off the moment you become unavailable. Problem solved. These things don't imply that you're available to talk 24/7. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion either.
Find better arguments.
morphism said:Same here. Although I do carry my old cell phone around with me as a watch.
The 1-2 hours thing was an exaggeration, right? If your "friends" talk on the phone for 1-2 hours while hanging out with you, then uhhhh :uhh: My friends usually answer and either make it quick "Yeah, no, cool, later", or they say "Let me call you back later".Xezlec said:- I hate being interrupted and having to wait silently while my friends spend 1-2 hours talking to someone on the phone, after I made the time to go and hang out with them.
I don't answer my phone while driving. If I need to take the call, I put it on speaker.Xezlec said:- Every time I see bad driving, or almost get killed, the driver is talking on their cell phone and not paying attention. I don't want to do two things at once, like talking on the phone while walking, working, or anything else.
Once again, this is yet another OPTIONAL thing. Just because you have a phone, doesn't mean you are obligated to use it. I have a friend who has a prepaid phone he bought half a year ago. He has only used 100 minutes of it.Xezlec said:- I dislike phone conversations in general, really. Why encourage that mode of conversation over others I prefer, such as email?
To know that you will be able to reach someone... If you're running late you can call and tell someone that.Xezlec said:- Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to carry around a phone in case of an "emergency" (like what, exactly? How often does this happen? An emergency communication device for that price?)
You don't have to answer. There's an ignore button. There is also a power button.Xezlec said:- Am I really supposed to be available for conversation by anyone all the time? There's no reason that I know of that that would be necessary.
This from someone who spends about 22 hours a day on PF.Astronuc said:I don't understand why people need to be constantly communicating with others, especially when it is some inane or trivial conversation.
Exactly. I'd turn it off in both situations (though I don't drive). I'd have it turned off 24/7. Why buy it?
And yes, having a cell phone does force you to talk on it while driving. Apparently. I can't prove it rationally, but anecdotal evidence appears to suggest that humans are incapable of owning a cell phone but turning it off when they drive. I've never seen someone do that, even the people who claim they should.
Do you do that?
A lot of people won't let you off that easy. Once they have you on the line they will insist on a conversation.
And I'm not talking about calls I initiate (I never would, anyway. Why do I need to know where everyone is?) I'm talking about receiving calls from others.
I don't need to make any arguments. You're the one implying that I need a cell phone. You argue your case. I'm just arguing that there is never a time I would want the damn thing. That was the only thing I ever had to demonstrate, and I'm pretty suire I demonstrated it adequately.
moose said:Once again, this is yet another OPTIONAL thing. Just because you have a phone, doesn't mean you are obligated to use it.
To know that you will be able to reach someone... If you're running late you can call and tell someone that.
You don't have to answer. There's an ignore button. There is also a power button.
I'm not saying that you should get a phone. Are you just saying that you don't want to pay so much for something you would almost never use?
I like having my phone to be able to text throughout the day, virtually anywhere. I communicate with my friends through text and rarely by phone.
Also, I can play music on my phone :tongue2: My phone has a 2MP camera which has pretty good quality. I've used it many times. My phone has a gps feature. I've only used that once, but it was awesome. I can get on AIM with my phone, as well as check email. It has a qwerty keypad so I type rather quickly on it... I rarely use these things, but there are times when I need to. My phone is also my alarm in the mornings as well as my watch during the day.
JasonRox said:Then have it turned off 24/7. I don't care. Why buy it? Well, in that case, it would strictly be used for emergencies.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. My friends don't even answer it while on the road. That sounds like VERY weak evidence. I'm interested in knowing the source though.
If they insist to have a conversation, click the hang up button. WOW, isn't that easy. That's what I do. If you're friends get mad, tell them you don't want to have conversations on your cellphone. If they don't respect that, get new friends.
Why do you need to know where everyone else is? I don't know. You tell me. If you're out at a bar and someone left, wouldn't it be nice to know your friend left?
You don't need to make arguments and you're right about that, but you made some up anyways and they turned out to be weak arguments.
mathwonk said:reminds me of the conversation i had in about 1984, with dave penney, an author of edwards and penney, when i complained about problems in his book requiring a calculator. and he said "you have a tv don't you?" to which i responded truthfully, "no." that ended that discussion.
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