Is this property of lines of force true for E.M?

In summary, there is some confusion around the properties and accuracy of lines of force in representing electric and magnetic fields. While field lines are useful for visualizing the direction of force, they are not mathematically rigorous and do not necessarily accurately reflect the strength of the field. Additionally, field lines are perpendicular to surfaces of constant electric potential, not constant field strength.
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Considering the visual representation of an electric/magnetic field (by 'line of forces'), is this fact about the properties of lines of force true? -

"Each line of force has equal strength"

The websites/books are pretty timid in reviling the properties of lines of forces...at least for E.Fs.
 
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Could you provide us with more detail? What's a "line of force", and what's "reving"?
 
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Sorry about that error, I've made the question clearer.
 
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I don't think it's true. For electric fields, lines of force originate with positive charges and end at negative charges, unless they begin or end at infinity when the net charge of the system is non-zero. You could pick a location near the charges, where a test charge would experience a very strong force, and you could pick locations far away from charges, where the force would be weak, possibly even zero if everything's balanced just right. The field lines are perpendicular to surfaces of constant field strengths in 3D, and curves in 2D, so if you have a lone positive charge, the field lines would radiate straight out to infinity, and the surfaces of constant field energy (the equipotential surfaces) would be spheres around the charge.
 
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You could pick a location near the charges, where a test charge would experience a very strong force, and you could pick locations far away from charges, where the force would be weak, possibly even zero if everything's balanced just right.

But that can also be because of the geometry losses right?...the lines of forces spread out so if the test charge is far away and so less lines of forces will fall on another charge (cause the lines of forces spread out with distance but actually depends on the geometry of the source charge) reducing the force.

So even if we consider this fact as true, the same thing will happen.

In fact, if this fact is true the inverse square relation of intensity with distance (for point charges) will be cause of the fact that the lines spread out with the distance traveled rather than the force by each line of force decreasing with the distance.

The field lines are perpendicular to surfaces of constant field strengths in 3D, and curves in 2D



I'm sort of not getting what you mean by this...if I got it right, this is itself against the properties of lines of forces.
 
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Force lines, or field lines are visual representations of the forces, and fields. They are not mathematically rigorous (the forms of the fields you can derive are, but they just tell you what it looks like).

In general, the denser the lines the more force there is, but of course there are an infinite number of lines, you just choose to draw a representative number. I wouldn't worry about field lines too much in terms of "strength", they are much more useful in telling you the direction of the force.
 
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JoAuSc said:
The field lines are perpendicular to surfaces of constant field strengths in 3D, and curves in 2D,

No, field lines are perpendicular to lines/surfaces of constant electric potential (equipotentials). The field is not generally constant on these lines/surfaces.
 
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jtbell said:
No, field lines are perpendicular to lines/surfaces of constant electric potential (equipotentials). The field is not generally constant on these lines/surfaces.

Thank you, I stand corrected.
 
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Field lines are each equally strong.

To indicate the field is more or less strong, you add more or fewer lines.
 

1. What are lines of force in electromagnetism?

Lines of force, also known as magnetic field lines, are imaginary lines used to represent the direction and strength of the magnetic field surrounding a magnet or a moving electric charge.

2. Are the lines of force in electromagnetism always curved?

Yes, the lines of force in electromagnetism are always curved because they represent the path a free north pole would take when moving in the magnetic field. The curve of the lines is determined by the shape and strength of the magnetic field.

3. Is it true that lines of force never intersect?

Yes, it is true that lines of force never intersect. This is because if they were to intersect, it would mean that at that point, there would be two directions for the magnetic field, which is not possible.

4. Do the lines of force always point in the same direction?

No, the lines of force can point in different directions depending on the strength and direction of the magnetic field. For example, in a bar magnet, the lines of force point from the north pole to the south pole.

5. How are lines of force related to electric fields?

Lines of force and electric fields are closely related in electromagnetism. The lines of force represent the direction of the electric field, and the density of the lines represents the strength of the electric field. Additionally, the lines of force and electric field lines are always perpendicular to each other at any given point.

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