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Fuel bundles blown up and around during explosion then super heats and melts, flows to the side . How would that defy gravity ?hoyrylollaaja said:and defy gravity?
Fuel bundles blown up and around during explosion then super heats and melts, flows to the side . How would that defy gravity ?hoyrylollaaja said:and defy gravity?
hoyrylollaaja said:and defy gravity?
Shogun, if that is the side of a wall, how come everything is stuck to it?shogun338 said:Fuel bundles blown up and around during explosion then super heats and melts, flows to the side . How would that defy gravity ?
What I'm saying is if a fuel bundle where laying there from the explosion and it melted it would flow across the floor of the room . Like when you spill a cup of water on a table.Joe Neubarth said:Shogun, if that is the side of a wall, how come everything is stuck to it?
Yes looking down on to one of the floors . Here is a video link of it. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30c_1301689134Joe Neubarth said:First I get a thought suggested and agree with it, and now with another comment, I can't find out which way is down. I think we are looking down at the debris, aren't we?
shogun338 said:Could this be melted spent fuel 2 flowing out of 1 in this pic of Reactor #4 ?
shogun338 said:Has anyone found a video of Unit 4 exploding ? With all the cameras around this thing I don't believe it was not filmed .
Cire said:It's laying on top of the fire suppression piping that was on the roof. It's likely roof sheeting or a barrier material installed in the roof. You can see several sharp "folds" in the material and its laying very flat over top of a very uneven surface.
A melted material would not behave in this manner. You would have flow channels, depressions, hanging drips, etc.
shogun338 said:What I'm saying is if a fuel bundle where laying there from the explosion and it melted it would flow across the floor of the room . Like when you spill a cup of water on a table.
M. Bachmeier said:You speak from, both a lack of data and desire for amortization, I don't advocate rash choices, but consider the human cost in decisions made. Precaution is both expensive and warranted in this case. Unknowns equal unacceptable risks for me and mine.
ZZR Puig said:You should remember that UO2 melts above 2800ºC, so almost any other material in contact with it would likely melt before it does, and it would glow a brightly warm white.
Joe Neubarth said:You obviously have never seen melted lead, have you?
shogun338 said:Unit # 4 photo . Lower levels destroyed .
NUCENG said:The latest IAEA updates on Chernobyl that I have read are still unable to demonstrate statistically an increase in latent cancers other than the thyroid cancers and acute dose cases early in the event. If you have later information I'll add it to the list of other new reports I have found while following this thread.
AtomicWombat said:I've inadvertently openned a can of worms. It appears there is huge disagreement on the population health impacts of Chernobyl in the scientific literature.
From...http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/9124045/leak-found-in-reactor-pit-as-japan-pm-tours-disaster-zone/...Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said it had found a crack in a concrete pit that was leaking water at its No.2 reactor in Fukushima, measuring 1,000 millisieverts of radiation per hour.
"With radiation levels rising in the seawater near the plant, we have been trying to confirm the reason why, and in that context, this could be one source," said Hidehiko Nishiyama, deputy head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA).
He cautioned, however: "We can't really say for certain until we've studied the results."
TEPCO poured concrete into the pit to stop the leak, but water prevented it from hardening and the leak had yet to be stopped, public broadcaster NHK said...
orndorf said:http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2KAAL#a=1
39 pictures from inside and outside the plant.
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Despite President Katsumata Tsunehisa tsunami hit Tokyo Electric Power Company on April 3, 2011, the loss of two young employees who tried to protect the safety of the plant, and the height of contrition Dearimasu. For the deceased, pray for us as well as deep, Our condolences to his family respectfully represent. Our Ino Takashi deceased to death, and vow to never repeat such a tragedy, for the convergence Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant accidents, heart and soul is willing to Katamuke. Please rest in peace please. And over
You tossed a five hundred pound blob of nearly solid amalgam of metal and it did not stick together? Or you tossed a few ounces of high temperature lead that pours freely like cream and you say there is a difference. In that case I would agree with you, but you have not made a point other than the fact that you want to belabor the issue ad infinitum. that looks like a melted but now solidified mass of metal to me.What does it look like to you again?Cire said:I work with molten lead quite frequently actually. Try tossing it over a stack of randomly oriented pipe and try to come up with flat smooth sheets as seen in the image. (Don't actually attempt to do this.)
Godzilla1985 said:Cause of death was probably tsunami - victims showed lots of blood loss. Although, I don't recall hearing of two missing workers throughout this time, so I'm kinda surprised.
Godzilla1985 said:Cause of death was probably tsunami - victims showed lots of blood loss. Although, I don't recall hearing of two missing workers throughout this time, so I'm kinda surprised.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/82827.html said:The plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said the same day that two workers in their 20s who had been missing since the March 11 killer quake and tsunami that crippled the power station were found dead in the basement of a reactor's building last Wednesday.
jensjakob said:This picture worries me:
http://english.kyodonews.jp/photos/2011/04/82781.html
If the military takes these precautions - why do we still see workers on the ground in lot less protection?