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Joe The Plumber Has a Publicist

  1. Oct 30, 2008 #1
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    Ivan Seeking

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    Palin-Plumber for 2012!
     
  4. Oct 30, 2008 #3

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    How is Joe able to hold down his job with all of these appearances he's making?

    Joe agreeing with the guy from the crowd saying Israel will be dead if Obama wins was about on a par with Palin saying she has foreign policy experience because from somewhere in Alaska Russia is visible.

    When did being stupid become something people look for in leaders?

    Is this a result of growing up watching too many TV commercials?
     
  5. Oct 30, 2008 #4

    Ivan Seeking

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    Many people seem to suffer from the delusion that we want an average person in the White House. My guess would be that this results from ego and insecurity. My uncle might be a good example. He can't use a computer. He was a terrible student. He doesn't read any more than the local paper. In fact, he doesnt understand most of what happens in the world around him, but he wants someone like him to be elected President. Go figure.

    He thinks Bush failed because he turned out to be one of those smart, educated types.

    And, no, he's not religious. But he can't let go of the notion that we want the good-ole-boys in power.
     
  6. Oct 30, 2008 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    I also think hate radio, and the likes of Fox News, have done serious damage to this country.
     
  7. Oct 30, 2008 #6

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    I will certainly say that Fox is a problem. There seems to me to be a consistent slant to misrepresenting things to be divisive and promote the lame Far Right agenda. The anchors seem to universally be chosen to appeal to a certain Bible Study, trailer park crowd.

    Smarmy strikes me as a pervasive descriptor that could be used with them all there.

    The Hannity reports and attacks for some reason don't seem to count as paid campaign contributions but that is all they have been the last several months. (For instance a recent report relied on this Andy Martin, a documented anti-Semite, lambasting Obama as having friends like Ayers and Kalidi. It was a despicable piece filled with unfounded innuendo.) Then they pair him with the impotent liberal Coombs so his arguments will look superior.

    Fox and Friends in the morning is just shamelessly short of being programming right off the 700 Club too. Certainly no Bush FCC would challenge this kind of over the top bias, but something does need to be addressed in regards to stations and networks being so openly biased. The world is seemingly coming to us right out of Citizen Kane. Any concentration of this kind of power of the press misused in this way is a threat that needs addressing.
     
  8. Oct 30, 2008 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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    The claim of "the liberal media" has always been a lie. Note that the media went after Clinton like hungry wolves, and daily, even on CNN, we hear no end of Obama conspiracy theories. But the right uses this nonsense claim to justify blind-right reporting, and hate mongering.

    As I have said before, when you as far to the right as you can get, everything is left!

    No kidding here: I was once shunned by everyone in a factory, in Alabama, when I said that I didnt watch Fox News. Until then we all got along just fine. This is the same place where, when I had to call in the electrical contractor on a Sunday in to make some corrections, he had to leave his church before the services were over. The kicker was that he was the preacher!!! Down there, hang a shingle that says "Preacher", and you're a preacher.
     
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    This is just getting rediculous. I haven't heard any one doing anything but making fun of this guy since the debates. How can he have gotten to this point?
     
  12. Oct 30, 2008 #11

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    Actually it's McCain that yanked him from obscurity by injecting him in the middle of his rhetoric in the last debate.

    Joe for his part has apparently been seeking out the limelight ever since. The notion that he is being persecuted is a trumped up charge by McCain - because a) it was McCain that brought him up, b) it turns out that Joe's original premise about "buying" a business looks like rubbish, c) Joe keeps chasing the spotlight and hired this publicist, and has a reported deal to be a c&w singer and d) has now gone on to spew his apparently thoughtless ideas further confirming his apparently shallow understanding of the issues.

    Joe knows as soon as the campaign is over he won't even be an asterisk. His 15 minutes will be up. In short Joe looks to me to have played an active part in promoting and buying into his own caricaturization in some effort to cash in.

    And if that isn't enough, Joe is just one letter short of being a Joke.
     
  13. Oct 31, 2008 #12
    Ok, I don't get much time to watch tv....but who is this Joe the Plumber guy? Why is there so much talk about him?
     
  14. Oct 31, 2008 #13

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    Because if you can't have fun at someone else's expense, there is no fun....

    Ok. I don't really mean that.

    Joe the plumber is a reflection on the pop-american-media.

    I would explain further, but I'm about to pass out....:rolleyes:.....
     
  15. Oct 31, 2008 #14
    I'm sure you can find plenty of articles. Apparently he asked Obama a question about his economic policies after one of the debates and McCain decided to use this man as an example of how his policies would be better for amercans than Obama's, particularly in regards to persons attempting to start thier own businesses as Mr Plumber was apparently intending to do. It's been a huge thing ever since. It's really annoying too. I couldn't stand to listen any more after I heard him brought up in the debates. I didn't even know who he was.
     
  16. Oct 31, 2008 #15

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    The irony is that Joe the plumber is entirely an illusion. McCain keeps saying Obama would raise Joe's taxes, when even Joe now admits that this isn't the case. Joe also suggested that tax breaks for poor [Obama mentioned "spreading the wealth around"] people is socialism, which McCain, and in particular, Palin, has jumped all over. Of course she is always careful to say that, "according to Joe", it is socialism. The fact that Joe is a plumber has no bearing. But the best part is that Joe isn't even a licensed plumber!

    McCain once supported the very tax structure that he now calls "redistributing", which is McCain code for socialism. He only changed his position in time to attract the Republican base for the election, who want to see more tax breaks for rich people, but not poor people.

    McCain wants more huge tax breaks for corporations, like Exxon Mobile, which just posted yet another record profit of $14.8 billion for the third quarter.
    http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/10/31/exxon_mobil_profit_is_biggest_ever/

    Somehow, Exxon Mobil is being sold as Joe the Plumber, when in fact, Joe would do much better under Obama's plan.

    Note that all taxes are a redistribution of wealth. McCain and the Republicans are selling utter nonsense. They actually have poor people feeling sorry for rich people!
     
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    During the last debate McCain cited Joe the Plumber 21 times. Joe is mentioned repeatedly at every campaign rally and is now appearing at the rallies. (when he shows up)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ruXEh8S12E&feature=related
     
  18. Oct 31, 2008 #17

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    Saying that making Joe the Plumber a campaign prop is a mistake by the McCain campaign is a fair point. Saying Joe the Plumber is an idiot for trying to cash in on a little good fortune that came his way is ignorant.

    As an ardent fan of "Morning Joe", I refuse to bash anyone named Joe. In fact, the only thing I have against Joe the Plumber is that his name is Sam, not Joe.
     
  19. Oct 31, 2008 #18

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    He pretended to be a plumber planning on buying a plumbing business and it was all a lie, he's not even a licensed plumber.

     
  20. Oct 31, 2008 #19

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    It's understandable that he would want to cash in for all the crassest reasons in the world. This may be the biggest payday he can ever get.

    Where he is acting the idiot is in agreeing with the nut job that was saying that Obama's election will be the end of Israel. That is simply ignorant and uninformed and most definitely over his pay grade.
     
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